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February 02, 2023 11:14AM
If I were to say the stat is 85.9 it means nothing
If I were to say 85.9 is a defensive passer rating it means a little more
If I explained the formula for passer rating and then said this is applied to defensive that is more context
If I explaind the for a passer the higher the number the better the stat
If I explained the lower the number the lower the stat, even more context

Still, we don't know what 85.9 means

If I said the leage average for a certain time was 90.0--okay more context
If I said the 85.9 was for a certain time--even more
If I said that the time frame was for both--logic says the numbers can be compared one to another

If there is a number for 32 teams they can be ranked--great more context.
If a team is 8th out of the 32..okay, the top 1/4 of the teams--even more

if 4 teams are selected for a reason (championship weekend) for a comparison of a favorite team
okay--compare

The context is there.

Same for all the stats.
Rinse and repeat

I it a perfect system?
No,

Does it have value?
Yes.

If we don't like what it says can we throw it out?
No.

Are there other things to look at?
Sure.

Have they been presented in context?
Yes.

Are there enough games to smooth out differences?
As much as possible over a two-year period.

Again, is it perfect?
No.

Do the stats say Morris' scheme is best in NFL?
No.

Do the stats support the thesis that Morris' soft zones don't work and warrant firing?
No, not even close

Where do coaches that get fired rank on the same set of data?
Would have to check but Miami and Vikings coaches far lower overall

What kind of defenses did they run?
They varied, neither as soft as Morris, but Miami, a pressure team, plenty of Man, Vikings much softer



Again----Morris is not a bum of a coach. People here just cannot stand him
for the way things look, they are not judging based on success and results
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Here are the facts Attachments

JimYoungblood531076February 02, 2023 06:26AM

  Re: Here are the facts

joram191February 02, 2023 06:41AM

  A lot of truth in what you say

JimYoungblood53168February 02, 2023 06:52AM

  Re: A lot of truth in what you say

joram132February 02, 2023 07:51AM

  Re: IMHO......There's times in a game when you can take a "chance" on defense.

oldschoolramfan73February 04, 2023 07:11AM

  Sure, we'd all like to see that. Attachments

JimYoungblood53181February 04, 2023 07:49AM

  Where would you find this stat?

JamesJM83February 04, 2023 08:24AM

  I posted about this a while ago James

Ramsdude141February 04, 2023 08:35AM

  Time of possesion? Attachments

JimYoungblood53105February 04, 2023 10:27AM

  Okay, now, just think about this and tell me what you think

JimYoungblood53160February 04, 2023 10:59AM

  Re: Okay, now, just think about this and tell me what you think

h2omelonhead85February 04, 2023 11:24AM

  I don't think TOP, at least the way it's kept....

JamesJM138February 04, 2023 12:12PM

  I think what you may be wanting is number of plays faced

JimYoungblood53166February 04, 2023 12:24PM

  My preference . . .

JimYoungblood5378February 04, 2023 08:19AM

  why not bring some new blood in?

joram197February 05, 2023 03:13PM

  Stats are useful up to a point…

Rams43143February 02, 2023 06:48AM

  I never post stats out of context

JimYoungblood53146February 02, 2023 07:30AM

  Re: I never post stats out of context

Rams43129February 02, 2023 08:46AM

  And THAT is out of context and meaningless

JimYoungblood53118February 02, 2023 10:31AM

  Re: I never post stats out of context

h2omelonhead95February 02, 2023 10:36AM

  Re: I never post stats out of context

Rams43137February 02, 2023 11:18AM

  Re: I never post stats out of context

h2omelonhead88February 02, 2023 11:25AM

  Re: I never post stats out of context

Rams4394February 02, 2023 03:09PM

  My point is moot

JimYoungblood53101February 02, 2023 11:27AM

  Re: My point is moot

h2omelonhead105February 02, 2023 12:06PM

  Have watched Philly a lot

JimYoungblood5394February 02, 2023 12:20PM

  Re: Have watched Philly a lot

h2omelonhead114February 02, 2023 12:31PM

  No, you got me there

JimYoungblood53260February 02, 2023 12:38PM

  Re: No, you got me there

h2omelonhead148February 02, 2023 01:26PM

  KC almost didn't beat Cincy

NewMexicoRam169February 02, 2023 01:47PM

  Re: KC almost didn't beat Cincy

h2omelonhead44February 06, 2023 09:14AM

  A lot of good work and research but....

Ramgator189February 02, 2023 06:56AM

  Well, all of us would.

JimYoungblood53228February 02, 2023 06:59AM

  Thanks for doing the research

NewMexicoRam167February 02, 2023 08:29AM

  Re: Thanks for doing the research

Rams43102February 02, 2023 08:48AM

  Agree with both of you!

Ramsdude153February 02, 2023 09:02AM

  Wow, the sad attempt at a catch phrase are really getting old

promomasterj104February 02, 2023 09:09AM

  Lol...you sure told me!!!

Ramsdude105February 02, 2023 09:19AM

  Paralysis by overanalysis

merlin224February 02, 2023 08:44AM

  Re: Paralysis by overanalysis

Rams43210February 02, 2023 08:49AM

  Again, agree with BOTH pf you. Glad you spoke up merlin!

Ramsdude111February 02, 2023 09:12AM

  Didn't see this until now

JimYoungblood5374February 04, 2023 11:57AM

  Re: Didn't see this until now

merlin187February 04, 2023 01:49PM

  Agree with all that merlin! Well said!

Ramsdude67February 04, 2023 02:02PM

  Re: Agree with all that merlin! Well said!

merlin179February 05, 2023 01:29PM

  It is a wait and see game Attachments

JimYoungblood53140February 04, 2023 02:12PM

  How's this for context...the offense

promomasterj129February 02, 2023 09:06AM

  Really JY53?

3030113February 02, 2023 10:41AM

  Easy replies. Low hanging fruit, really

JimYoungblood5392February 02, 2023 11:06AM

  Also, and I could be wrong on this---looked it up

JimYoungblood53188February 02, 2023 11:38AM

  Re: Really JY53?

Rams43166February 02, 2023 11:21AM

  Out of context stats

JimYoungblood53164February 02, 2023 11:14AM

  Re: Out of context stats

Ramstien109February 02, 2023 11:43AM

  I think we all like a Fisher-type defense. I like a Saleh/Ryans

JimYoungblood5380February 02, 2023 11:52AM

  Re: Here are the facts

Old Goat127February 02, 2023 12:33PM

  Re: Here are the facts

Rams43265February 02, 2023 03:36PM

  The difference is your take is fair and reasonable

JimYoungblood53198February 02, 2023 04:03PM

  Re: The difference is your take is fair and reasonable unless you continue to disagree with me!

Ramsdude121February 03, 2023 05:04AM

  Re: The difference is your take is fair and reasonable unless you continue to disagree with me!

Rams43123February 03, 2023 06:23AM

  Re: The difference is your take is fair and reasonable unless you continue to disagree with me! Attachments

JimYoungblood53237February 03, 2023 10:16AM

  This is only for info Attachments

JimYoungblood5389February 03, 2023 02:41PM

  Come 53, that

Stafford9147February 03, 2023 04:01PM

  Come 53, that is like saying the Chinese Spy Balloon

Stafford9220February 03, 2023 04:01PM

  Why was my comment removed?

Ram4life193February 03, 2023 06:10PM

  I always appreciate you knowledge and take on things

David Deacon182February 04, 2023 04:38AM

  Thanks

JimYoungblood53141February 04, 2023 01:06PM

  Re: Thanks

Ramsdude81February 04, 2023 01:26PM

  Yep Attachments

JimYoungblood53185February 04, 2023 01:51PM