QuotePHDram or it was just insurance against picking up a quality cb in the draft. i believe they did that in long. long imo will be the #4 cb. do you want to pay the #5 2 million? If he's the best CB of the remaining ones, sure. I tend not to be so hung up about contracts that way. In fact I tend to avoid those discussions---I only dive into cap stuff when it involves policies and math withby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotebigjimram21 You think that Edwards will be a better LT than Boom? Assuming they are equal or even close to it, put Edwards at LT and you make one move instead of 2. Plus one of the 2 will have more experience at his spot, also an advantage compared to both being inexperienced at a position. So it's just better for line continuity and stability. But it's all pure speculation at this poby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteden-the-coach Quotezn I don't think Edwards is a guard, really. I think he;s a tackle, and he has the raw skills of a left OT as a matter of fact. I concur here, I actually think Edwards will get time at LT more than Evans, but Evans can slot in at RG as he was a RT in 2017. IMO, Kromer will have Evans & Edwards playing all positions on the Offensive Line besides Center, but Edwby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam I think Fowler, Matthews, Ebukam, and even Obo are so similar to Winovich that it makes drafting Winovich kind of pointless. Taking one of the top 2 or 3 super athletic, long, quick twitch OLBs might have been tempting. But Winovich offers nothing that they don't already have plenty of. Except he's been productive and they're not so far.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDavid Deacon I think the Job is Allen's. Now if he doesn't do well in camp that could change but if he performs as they expect he will he will own the job. Blythe though is the backup plan should Allen falter. In real terms that's probably right, but they did sign some UDFA centers, and at center a UDFA can be more than just a camp guy. So maybe some a future depth guy and/or practice sqby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCROMWELL21 If he wanted his number so bad he would have signed his tender. Maybe the Rams withdraw his tender although he isn't horrible he's still not better than a number four. They tendered him. Guys they didn't want, they did not tender. As I understand it they have until July to sign. And besides, him signing the tender is no guarantee--he might or might not make the roster in weekby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSteve Ya, if picks start at guard in 2020, I won't be suprised one bit. The Rams would have a top 3 pass blocking O line then (if Boom holds up at LT like I think he will). Like these 2 picks a lot.... I don't think Edwards is a guard, really. I think he;s a tackle, and he has the raw skills of a left OT as a matter of fact.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotecool_hand_luke Agree. I doubt them on Gaines but believe them on Rapp if that helps you understand my point of view. Mostly based on the player but meh what the f do I know. Purely speculation. But kind of fun. I think Gaines is one of the best picks of this Rams draft, and it's a good draft. He is a role player, but you can be a great role player (for example Robey-Coleman is a great nby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotecool_hand_luke Has there ever been a time when the GM said "all the guys we wanted we gone so we settled on some blah player just to pick someone"? Would be very cautious about taking anything GMs and Coaches say after the draft as valuable or truthful. I am. Everyone is. But one should also be cautious about being too cautious. That's just as false in its own, different way aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram Someone posted earlier that wade NEVER drafted a nt in the first round. If true how important can it be? It would seem that in 30 years of coaching it would have happened once if it was a vital cog. Well, there are great defenses throughout NFL history who have fielded great NTs who also never drafted one in the first round. Parcells Giants for example had a series of top NTs withouby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camus that's all. And you are right, I'd waaay rather have the Rapp et al choice and Gaines too. I guess I'm just amazed at the accuracy of when to draft and when to not draft. I know they miss too...just sayin...Snead did an amazing job working the BigBoard - moving up then back down....I just get a bit curious as to the when & whys of some of those moves sometimes, I guessby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram but i also think its possible that the the position is not valued in Wade's defense. It is though. Look at the list of Wade's NTs going back to previous defenses. This includes guys like Ratliff in Dallas who did not play NT before Wade arrived. I mean they signed Suh to play NT because they didn't have one.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJimYoungblood53 Quotezn This is just what I think about Rapp. He's a safety. He would not only be wasted at LB, he would be killed there...he doesn't have the frame for it. That guy from Cardinals, Barron, lots of safeties play linebacker, even in base. If Barron could do it Rapp can do it. Barron did it because he was a good player who could not play safety. Rapp can. Barron wasby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
They knew they could get him in the 4th. Why? I suspect they knew that (1) he's a role player, and (2) there would be a rush on DL in round 1 which means that teams would turn to other things after that. That means they knew they could save earlier picks for guys they couldn't get in the 4th. Which would you rather have--- Gaines, and 3 of the following 4 guys: Rapp, Long, Henderson, Evanby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJimYoungblood53 Quotezn This I will bet on--Rapp will not be a linebacker. He's a safety. It wastes a good safety to put him at LB. Rapp has superlative skills for safety, why waste those. Plus he's not even as big as Barron was. They moved Barron to LB because he lacked the very kinds of skills at safety Rapp has in abundance. They made no move to supplant Kiser from the MIKE spot (whby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 For Rapp, Henderson, Long and Gaines they could all carve out roles as rookies. Whether any of them starts or not it is very feasible each could see anywhere from 15-30 snaps per game. Consider that as a rookie Rapp could take snaps from Christian and Countess, who combined for over 400 snaps last year. Henderson should earn playing time as a 3rd down back. Long steps in liby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotealyoshamucci Clay can play inside and out and I trust Kiser. Littleton will be making the calls so I'm not as worried about who lives up beside him. Edge? Not comfy at all. Is clay revitalized for a couple years? Does Ebukam keep developing? Is Fowler better after being in our off season program? Does okoronkwo make an appearance ? Not comfy The Rams seem to trust Kiser. They mby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram FWIW some sites show Matthews starting at ILB with Fowler and Ebu outside. And their guesses are literally as good as ours. Because they have as much to go on as we do. Less, probably, since none of those guys follows any team as closely as we follow the Rams. The indications we get from the team so far say that Matthews will line up all over and won't be an every dowby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJimYoungblood53 DE—Brockers NT—Gaines DE—Donald OLB—Fowler ILB—Littleton ILB—Rapp OLB—Matthews (Ebukam) CB—Talib CB—Peters S—Johnson S—Weddle Nickel back—Long (Gaines goes out of game) This I will bet on--Rapp will not be a linebacker. He's a safety. It wastes a good safety to put him at LB. Rapp has superlative skills for safety, why waste those. Plus he's not even as big asby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotezn QuoteLMU93 Not great.. But you know, there always has to be a top need for 2020.. the cupboard is not bare at either. They have Fowler, Matthews, Ebukam and Okoronkwo. And Fox and Matthews. We don't know what that all amounts to. Inside? They know they have Kiser and did not address ILB as a priority. That tells me that in terms of 2-down MIKE LBs who will probably seeby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camus and that heartened me a bit more I must say. Still, Gaines was ...what?...the 5th player selected...I kinda thot that strategy in a DL rich draft woulda been to get a NT earlier since he'd be a starter - in effect and not the substitute players(for now) Rapp, Henderson, Long, Evans....all bench & package depth til they get their chance...while the NT is a starting openby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 Not great.. But you know, there always has to be a top need for 2020.. the cupboard is not bare at either. They have Fowler, Matthews, Ebukam and Okoronkwo. And Fox and Matthews. We don't know what that all amounts to. Inside? They know they have Kiser and did not address ILB as a priority. That tells me that in terms of 2-down MIKE LBs who will probably see the field less thanby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camus tho very surprised the Rams didn't feel DL was not as big a deal as I did. They must really like last year's DL rooks more than I thought. They used mid round picks both years - 4th rounders for DE JFM & NT GGaines - to bolster the rotation...Gaines & SebasDay will fight it out at NT. Brockers will be LDE w/JFMs coming in relief with Young in for AD??? Plenty of uby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteleafnose Not sure I would be so quick to compare For me, Weddle was a brute in college. Tough guy, nfl tough. I'll be thrilled if Rapp is another Weddle / Johnson To my untrained eye, I see PFF's own assessment "play linebacker, corner or safety." Guess there ought to be concern about that flexor. But looking at him roaming the secondary, he's got that linebacker visby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteazramfan Oh well, memory must be goin at 57. Hekker was a hell of a find. For that matter, Zuerlein was a hell of a 6th round pick. One of the best the Rams ever made. In fact the last actually decent one was Mike Guman in 1980. Before that ... no one, really. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDeadpool Positives: a great athlete for the position excellent mover in space can and will maul you strong hands with nice pop light feet strong Thanks for the write-up. Always appreciated. But a question on Edwards. I obviously didn't do a whole bunch of work on him before today. But given what everyone (including you) sees as his strengths, he actually sounds like a left OT prby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotezn QuoteRams43 Cory Littleton was a UDFA. So, you never know when you’re gonna get a gem. These are the significant players last year who were UDFAs (whether they signed with the Rams originally or not): Malcolm Brown (I count him even though he got hurt), Hekker, Littleton, McQuaide, Natson, and Robey-Coleman. That sounds like a candidate to be the second best list compby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteazramfan If I remember right, believe Greg the leg was an UDFA. Crazy huh? Zuerlein, actually, was a 6th round pick in 2012. Though now that you mention it, I forgot one that belongs on the 99 list--punter Rick Tuten.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Cory Littleton was a UDFA. So, you never know when you’re gonna get a gem. These are the significant players last year who were UDFAs (whether they signed with the Rams originally or not): Malcolm Brown (I count him even though he got hurt), Hekker, Littleton, McQuaide, Natson, and Robey-Coleman. That sounds like a candidate to be the second best list compared to THE best lisby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach According to this...it's 33 3/8. It is my understanding that 33 inches is a minimum standard and therefore that short arms would be less than that. Though it certainly doesn't qualify as "long." And...I don't know what's correct. B) Perhaps we should flag down a passing draftnik. ....by zn - RamsFootballFans.com