February 27, 2021 02:31AM
I've thought a lot about this. Can we say that an HC can be responsible for a QBs regression?
I suppose one could make a case for trying to pound a square peg into a round hole; that is, an HC trying to make a QB something other than what he is. Trying to make the QB fit a system instead of designing a system around a QB. Although, we all know it's not quite that black and white.

But the 2 glaring examples currently are Wentz and Goff. And they've had the same HC. And in both cases the HCs were offensive minded. In fact in the case of Wentz, his HC was an NFL QB. And they have bother regressed noticeably in the past 2 years. They were good enough to get big buck extensions. But the.....pfffffft. Down the drain. Can that really be blamed on the HC?

Wentz's case and Goff's are a bit different imo. Wentz's has much (not entirely) to do with injury. Wentz's game is such that he is somewhere between a mobile and a running QB. And it is because of that aspect that he got injured. And now he's a bit gun shy to run, and also has decreased athleticism due to those injuries. Result: his game has taken a hit.

Goff's regression is the more befuddling one to me. He simply went from playing well to not playing well. He became a turnover machine.... of every kind. He couldn't seem to get through his progressions. Even many of his completions were somewhat errant. And some of his incompletions were head scratching as they were easy passes for even a high school kid.

We've cussed and discussed the reasons why for Goff.
But in the end, it seems to me that in most cases the regression is on the QB and not the HC. Perhaps it also involves Defenses figuring these guys out and knowing exactly how to play them (the way the Rams have figured out Russ). Exposing a serious weakness (such has Goff not being able to handle pressure). I think suddenly becoming worth $100 million could have something to do with it. How much harder do you still want to work? How much do you want to expose yourself to injury.... concussions..... lifetime joint damage.

Bottom line, I think especially when the circumstances are that a QB has had success with a certain HC and then falls apart still under that same HC, that it is mostly on the QB.
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  Can HC's be responsible for a QB's regression?

RockRam445February 27, 2021 02:31AM

  I think that they can

Ram_Ruler182February 27, 2021 03:44AM

  great post!!

SunTzu_vs_Camus190February 27, 2021 05:23AM

  Re: great post!!

zn221February 27, 2021 11:29AM

  not directed towards me, but I'd wager

Ram_Ruler203February 27, 2021 12:04PM

  Re: not directed towards me, but I'd wager

zn298February 27, 2021 12:15PM

  Ehhh, opinions I guess

Ram_Ruler177February 27, 2021 12:36PM

  good question....fun to think about...

SunTzu_vs_Camus132February 28, 2021 07:25AM

  Thanks! Yeah i think that sometimes

Ram_Ruler151February 27, 2021 11:59AM

  Not so sure.....

roman18270February 27, 2021 04:11AM

  Re: Not so sure.....

zn249February 27, 2021 05:38PM

  Certainly there is shared blame

David Deacon280February 27, 2021 04:39AM

  Re: Certainly there is shared blame

zn190February 27, 2021 11:39AM

  Re: Certainly there is shared blame

Rampage2K-163February 27, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: Certainly there is shared blame

David Deacon246March 01, 2021 01:24AM

  Re: Certainly there is shared blame

zn128March 01, 2021 01:37AM

  Re: Certainly there is shared blame

Leoram135March 01, 2021 04:13AM

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zn139March 01, 2021 04:36AM

  Re: Certainly there is shared blame

Leoram124March 01, 2021 05:07AM

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zn112March 01, 2021 09:04AM

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Leoram141March 02, 2021 01:42AM

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zn138March 02, 2021 05:39AM

  Re: Certainly there is shared blame

dzrams116March 01, 2021 06:52AM

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Rams43152March 01, 2021 07:04AM

  A Most Certain YES a HC can be Responsible

BearlyThere180February 27, 2021 05:50AM

  Re: A Most Certain YES a HC can be Responsible

Oakville Tim170February 27, 2021 10:15AM

  Re: A Most Certain YES a HC can be Responsible

zn155March 01, 2021 09:25AM

  A simple answer

waterfield188February 27, 2021 01:18PM

  Re: Can HC's be responsible for a QB's regression?

Classicalwit262February 28, 2021 05:16AM