January 18, 2021 11:46AM
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headslapper
many have been offered, but I think there are a few left to put on the table:

1. Goff's greatest strength is also killing McVay: Goff is know for being even, calm, and never rattled. He is known for having a short term memory and shakes off a pick instantly. This is great, but has it gotten old? Does McVay want Goff to be pissed when he throws a pick, two , three? McVay is a competitor and Goff is a solid winner who seems to be a natural politician ("the thumb is no excuse blah blah"winking smiley. Perhaps, McVay is tired of not having any fire at the helm.
1. In the past McVay complimented Goff keeping him more in-control. Nothing lately.

2. the inability to stack. Goff came in and was not used to reading defenses. He learned and is doing it now. But it seems when he learns something he forgets what he just learned, or he is unable to put it all together. So read defense at the cost of downfield throws? stop turnovers? done, but at the cost of taking sacks? it seems whenever you solve one problem it creates a new one. Perhaps McVay has determined this is it, great guy, can do it all, just not all at once.
2. Over coaching? Maybe. There is a lot happening and few are great at processing it all. Even Aaron Rodgers can't see it all at the snap, but his ability to move around while he looks is the difference. Mobility can help and McVay knows this.

3. play calling: seems to me Goff audibles a lot. I do not know if they send in two plays or three or how the audible system works, but in the event that McVay is sending in plays and Goff is constantly overruling them could mean there is a sort of power struggle going on. It is clear that both would have plenty of ammo to point out the other's failed calls and justification for using their own, but this type of tug-o-war is not good.

4. McVay cannot relate with the kid. McVay talks about life - work balance and spending more time with his GF etc, but the dude loves football, breathes football, this is why he loves AD so much, AD is in that camp as well. Being a former QB himself, McVay maybe cannot understand how a QB cannot be as infatuated with the game as he is, and to have Goff spend time traveling around or taking off time from football all together might irk McVay.
4.McVay was a WR. Maybe this is why he doesn't relate to the QB position? WR only has know his route and maybe other WRs.

5. Goff can be pretty ditzy as we have seen in interviews etc. Perhaps he is just not smart enough to be an NFL QB, he has elite skills but not an elite mind or passion. I think by choosing Wolford, he went with the elite mind and passion over skill.
5. I think Goff is smart enough and at least at one time was passionate about it. Wouldn't have won so many game if he was just lucky. Not sure if his passion has changed with age, money, girlfriend...

I lastly want to say, McVay making this public is not good for all the reasons stated here, but also it is horrible for any trade deals we might want to make. The price has gone down now that it seems McVay does not want him. That is really bad negotiating to say the least.

Good summary and guesses. I agree that little good can come from airing dirty laundry unless it is to provide a spark to Goff.
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  Goff- McVay relationship- Wyche

LSURAM1075January 18, 2021 09:42AM

  Wyche: "Goff and McVay need marriage counseling"

max382January 18, 2021 09:53AM

  Re: Wyche: "Goff and McVay need marriage counseling"

Classicalwit247January 18, 2021 10:06AM

  Re: The source also said "they can work through it."

dzrams235January 18, 2021 10:31AM

  we can only speculate

Speed_Kills318January 18, 2021 10:38AM

  Re: Silver said something key...

dzrams279January 18, 2021 10:54AM

  that was after Miami right?

Speed_Kills295January 18, 2021 10:59AM

  Re: Nope...2nd loss to the 9ers

dzrams216January 18, 2021 11:07AM

  The Miami game. I agree

Ram_Ruler339January 18, 2021 11:01AM

  Re: Goff- McVay relationship- Wyche

BearlyThere245January 18, 2021 09:57AM

  "McVay playing with fire"? No; Goff is.

RockRam329January 18, 2021 10:12AM

  you talk like you know what's happening, but you don't

zn278January 18, 2021 10:47AM

  where there is smoke?

Speed_Kills302January 18, 2021 10:47AM

  Re: where there is smoke?

RamsAl48269January 18, 2021 02:48PM

  Re: where there is smoke?

no name279January 18, 2021 03:03PM

  nobody is talking about that stadium

Speed_Kills163January 18, 2021 04:41PM

  I like your theories from the other day better

zn289January 18, 2021 10:42AM

  Re: I like your theories from the other day better

BearlyThere165January 18, 2021 11:04AM

  Re: I like your theories from the other day better

Rams43156January 18, 2021 01:10PM

  Re: Goff- McVay relationship- Wyche

MamaRAMa347January 18, 2021 10:59AM

  well said

Deadpool168January 18, 2021 11:02AM

  Re: well said

BearlyThere149January 18, 2021 11:16AM

  We're seeing the cons of a young head coach

Ram_Ruler307January 18, 2021 10:31AM

  Yep

Ram49184January 18, 2021 10:47AM

  I don’t disagree .... but “why” is he being so public

Speed_Kills379January 18, 2021 10:57AM

  Sure. And if he gave Bellicheck type answers you'd say he's a liar

RockRam222January 18, 2021 11:39AM

  I'm right there with you

Drew2839151January 18, 2021 12:15PM

  Re: Goff- McVay relationship- Wyche

3030240January 18, 2021 10:34AM

  you could be on to something. nm

Speed_Kills321January 18, 2021 11:02AM

  Re: you could be on to something. nm

MalibuRam264January 18, 2021 11:23AM

  Re: you could be on to something

MamaRAMa164January 18, 2021 11:30AM

  If I were O'Connell

BigGame81159January 18, 2021 11:36AM

  the problem is

zn288January 18, 2021 11:42AM

  Re: Goff- McVay relationship- Wyche

DallasRam291January 18, 2021 11:59AM

  many possible explanations

headslapper166January 18, 2021 11:29AM

  Re: many possible explanations

BearlyThere142January 18, 2021 11:46AM

  Re: many possible explanations

zn154January 18, 2021 11:52AM

  Re: many possible explanations

BearlyThere158January 18, 2021 11:57AM

  Finally, something to which I can relate!

Ramboni145January 18, 2021 04:20PM

  Re: Both Goff and McVay are making things public...

dzrams180January 18, 2021 12:18PM

  Re: Both Goff and McVay are making things public...

RamsAl48184January 18, 2021 12:26PM

  WHY NOT TRADE AARON DONALD?

BumRap149January 18, 2021 03:07PM

  Re: Both Goff and McVay are making things public...

MamaRAMa159January 18, 2021 12:38PM

  Re: Goff- McVay relationship- Wyche

Ekern55208January 18, 2021 12:55PM

  Re: Whoa!

dzrams171January 18, 2021 01:24PM

  No idea what lies beneath the surface..

JamesJM297January 18, 2021 01:36PM

  Re: Whoa!

Ekern55149January 18, 2021 02:42PM

  Yeah, do you have a link on the teammates thing?

Drew2839168January 18, 2021 01:39PM

  Re: Goff- McVay relationship- Wyche

zn220January 18, 2021 02:06PM

  Re: Goff- McVay relationship- Wyche

Ekern55135January 18, 2021 03:16PM

  Re: Goff- McVay relationship- Wyche

no name161January 18, 2021 01:56PM