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Re: he's not that bad at handling pressure

June 26, 2020 05:57PM
Zn,
I don't think I've mischaracterised your argument. I'm arguing that Goff needs to improve. You've consistently highlighted the OLine weakness as a reason / excuse for his poor performance. I think you've had a knee-jerk reaction to my mild criticism of Goff, assumed that I'm a Goff hater, and you've defended him by highlighting the OLine weakness. Your argument here parallels the same tenor of argument you made on behalf of Jeff Fisher.

The 2 stats that you quoted in your first post support my argument completely:
1) Key Stat from QB Annual: Goff ranked ... 14th in PFF grade under pressure.
2) According to SportRadar, Goff had a QBR of 54.7 when pressured. That ranked him 13th among all quarterbacks who generally were considered starters
this season.

You're own stats make my argument for me. You've explicitly stated that Goff is in the middle of the pack. I wholeheartedly agree! I'm asking for improvement. If you've actually read and watched the Football Outsiders post about Goff you'd of seen several of the mistakes he's made. I thought I was stating the obvious.

It's common knowledge that a bad OLine hurts QB play. That's also stating the obvious. But QBs are not automatons, they're human, they improve, regress, make mistakes, etc. Even with a perfect OLine the best QBs are going to make a mistakes. That's also stating the obvious.

I am not putting words in your mouth but the tenor of your argument is that with a great/solid OLine Goff would be the most elite QB in the league. That parallels what one harsh critic of Goff said, "Goff is the best practice QB in football." (That criticism is also wrong, Goff is much better than that).

So please hear the actual point being made: Goff needs to improve. Simple. I'd like Goff to cut down the INTs and fumbles. Wouldn't you?

Somehow you don't think he needs to improve? Yes? No? Simple question but one you're probably hesitant to answer.
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