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Re: consensus

June 18, 2019 04:32AM
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LMU93
And because so often getting true consensus is extremely difficult and sometimes impossible, there is contingency for that. The goal can be consensus with the fallback being decision by Snead.

And consensus can also mean some people saying they "can go along with that choice" vs. everyone nodding that it's their top choice. Very often consensus means that.

We don't even know that Snead has the power of final say. We know Fisher did. Right now, truth is, we don;t know who does. But even if Snead did, if his job (as he sees it) is to find players who are "fits," then he is going to listen to experienced guys like Wade and Kromer. He is certainly not going to overrule them, right? And then when it comes to skill players, McVay. Plus there was a policy previously that for all we know is still in force. From 2012-2016, the procedure was, if there was conflicting views of a player, they would just drop that player. This too is "human nature" as long as we are going to base analysis on vague abstractions: if you force a choice on others, they can tend to be less cooperative on other decisions. Either way, it is impossible to look at guys like Henderson and not think McVay, or Rapp and not think Wade, or Noteboom and not think Kromer.

I really don;t know what this debate is about or why it exists, to be honest. For example, there's this thing about consensus is not really achievable, as if "consensus" means 100% accord. Consensus means sometimes, you shrug and move on. Experienced workers who are invested in the process know how to do that. So I dont know where this "you're saying consensus means 100% accord" strawman comes from, And which scout or linebacker coach is going to tell Kromer, no your guy Noteboom is unacceptable to me? Sneads job in this is (among other things) to bring a bunch of paint color swatches to experienced coaches, who then say, well I like E345 ("autumn amber" ).

To me this kind of speculating by us isn;t very clear in its purpose. It's interesting, but since it's mostly speculation, it doesn't have the feel of real analysis.

Either way we know dead certain that Snead is not a "UberMan" type GM who makes personnel decisions unilaterally. I mean, we know that's the case.

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/2019 04:41AM by zn.
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zn322June 15, 2019 10:49AM

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Rams43197June 16, 2019 06:55AM

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zn212June 16, 2019 08:34AM

  Re: As with Jared Goff, Rams HC Sean McVay and GM Les Snead in line for new contracts...

Rams43181June 16, 2019 08:55AM

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zn203June 16, 2019 09:23AM

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David Deacon218June 17, 2019 02:30AM

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zn320June 17, 2019 03:28AM

  it seems like snead runs the show

PHDram156June 17, 2019 05:38AM

  Re: it seems like snead runs the show

zn177June 17, 2019 05:49AM

  Re: it seems like snead runs the show

PHDram175June 17, 2019 06:02AM

  Re: As with Jared Goff, Rams HC Sean McVay and GM Les Snead in line for new contracts...

David Deacon229June 17, 2019 06:18AM

  How about this interpretation?

Rams43197June 17, 2019 07:58AM

  ill dispute it

PHDram211June 17, 2019 08:52AM

  Re: ill dispute it

Rams43187June 17, 2019 09:17AM

  Re: ill dispute it

zn179June 17, 2019 09:40AM

  disputes

PHDram249June 17, 2019 10:21AM

  Re: disputes

LMU93275June 18, 2019 03:00AM

  I concur

PHDram162June 18, 2019 03:29AM

  consensus

LMU93178June 18, 2019 02:57AM

  Re: consensus

zn173June 18, 2019 04:32AM

  Re: consensus

PHDram167June 18, 2019 05:23AM

  Re: ill dispute it

PHDram175June 17, 2019 10:15AM

  comes down to clear decision making process

LMU93274June 18, 2019 02:53AM

  I agree

zn209June 18, 2019 05:29AM

  Re: How about this interpretation?

zn276June 17, 2019 01:29PM

  Re: How about this interpretation?

Rams43243June 17, 2019 02:58PM

  Re: How about this interpretation?

David Deacon208June 17, 2019 03:54PM

  Re: How about this interpretation?

zn183June 17, 2019 06:26PM

  Since were reiterating stuff

PHDram174June 17, 2019 06:43PM

  Re: How about this interpretation?

David Deacon265June 18, 2019 02:35AM

  He has improved since McVay has been on board

PHDram165June 18, 2019 03:26AM

  Re: He has improved since McVay has been on board

RamsFanSince69190June 18, 2019 09:18AM

  Re: He has improved since McVay has been on board

PHDram165June 18, 2019 04:31PM

  Fisher did a lot of things right...

jemach168June 18, 2019 05:07AM

  Rams aren't planning to extend McVay for now

jemach238June 18, 2019 04:49AM

  Lmao....man this guy is nonstop

Rampage2K-296June 18, 2019 10:24AM

  Demoff never once says they aren't going to extend McVay

promomasterj158June 18, 2019 12:10PM