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Re: The fact they got there contradicts your premise IMO...

May 30, 2019 11:18AM
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I see plenty of room for two reasonable people to have opposite opinions on this topic, zn.

Debate points can be made for both positions.

My take is threefold.

First, these moves were a big part of taking a 4-12 team to 13-3 and a SB berth in just two years. How does one place a value on that?

Second, it’s only been 2 years for this strategy. Cooks is already a HR and Fowler and/or Peters could yet be, also. If that happens, this strategy is a rousing success.

Third, it’s unknowable what Snead might have done with those spent picks. Probably very darned well, I would think. But without the aggregate experience of the 4 mentioned players, I wonder if we would have seen the SB results in ‘18.

So, like I said, I can see good arguments for both positions. Nice discussion.

I think going to a superbowl in 2 years when not ready as a team is not all that great an accomplishment. They would have gotten there sooner or later anyway. (Besides what if they took a corner with the 2018 2nd round pick. Then you don't need Peters.) So I would easily trade an early superbowl for the more steady, time-honored team-building approach and a more solid team. (Plus I don't think they would have done all that differently in 2017 without Watkins anyway. If anything it might have gotten McV off of trying to reproduce the Washington offense and instead learning sooner to make something out of the personnel he has.)

My bet? They don't do the trade-a-high-pick-for-a-short-rookie-contract thing anymore.

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They got to the SB so I can't agree that they "weren't ready" despite scoring only 3 points. The D played lights out with Peters' contribution. As a team, they were definitely worthy SB participants IMO and ready (whatever that means).

I also have to challenge your other assumption. If they took a CB in the 2nd round of 2018, you're assuming that guy would be any good in his rookie year. Sorry I can't buy that. You often remind us that rookies don't usually come in and perform great right away. We're not gonna make a speculative exception here.

So IMO we should assume, as usual, that a rookie CB would not be starting and definitely would significantly underperform Peters especially what he provided in the latter half of the year.
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