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Re: Just to note...

December 21, 2018 04:21PM
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JamesJM
Your recurring theme: "Can you name me any qbs who were under THAT MUCH pressure and did not get rattled to a certain extent?" Probably not... because no such thing exists.... and it's also subjective to the extreme.... but no matter because it's utterly nonsensical, IMHO... because I can name hundreds who, EVEN THOUGH "TO SOME EXTENT" got rattled, (as you call it, I would not use that term)... fought through it and succeeded. Fact is - I can't think of any "great" QB who did NOT... and most non-great but good ones as well. Hell, even a few lousy QB's.

One of the reasons I am so behind my grandson's love of the Chargers this year is because Rivers has been doing that "consistently" for nearly his entire career. Again... we can debate that... but it's subjective.

Yeah I have seen Goff get rattled, shake it off, and come through.

And he actually has a pretty high comeback win percentage.

The point of "that much pressure" is that it's A LOT. The Bears got pressure on 52% of the Rams throws. Any idea how ridiculously high that is?

So no it's not subjective, you can see it and factor it in, and no it is just plain not common for qbs under that much pressure to thrive. Wilson is generally good under pressure and we saw him rattled in 2 of the last 3 Rams games. Brady was clearly off his game in the 2007 superbowl. It goes on. Etc etc It's a visible thing.

To me it's not a full or complete or realistic analysis if we don't factor things in like OL collapse or subpar OL play because of injuries, where protection has become an issue.

And yeah my entire career watching football I have rarely seen a qb rise above it. Not when it's relentless and the protection is clearly subpar like that. Not when it's at that level.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/21/2018 04:41PM by zn.
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  Just rewatched the 4th quarter

ferragamo79980December 21, 2018 10:37AM

  Re: Just rewatched the 4th quarter

zn262December 21, 2018 11:01AM

  Re: there is some truth to what you say here

Speed_Kills155December 21, 2018 01:37PM

  When Brady was in his 3rd season....

NewMexicoRam159December 21, 2018 03:38PM

  well to be fair

zn154December 21, 2018 03:49PM

  Goff's last 3 games could be "blips"

NewMexicoRam146December 22, 2018 05:00AM

  I agree with you

zn98December 22, 2018 05:20AM

  Re: I agree with you

moklerman80December 22, 2018 08:22AM

  Re: I agree with you

zn57December 22, 2018 12:57PM

  Re: I agree with you

moklerman65December 22, 2018 01:10PM

  Re: I agree with you

zn61December 28, 2018 08:53PM

  Yes, I agree with all of that. nm

NewMexicoRam57December 22, 2018 12:19PM

  Re: Goff's last 3 games could be "blips"

MamaRAMa70December 22, 2018 08:12AM

  Seems so to me. Even great QBs have bad games.

RockRam88December 29, 2018 05:50AM

  I don't think this one is on Goff, it's on the OL

zn312December 29, 2018 06:05AM

  Hit once before throwing first pick

moklerman131December 21, 2018 03:56PM

  Just to note...

JamesJM140December 21, 2018 04:05PM

  Re: Just to note...

zn105December 21, 2018 04:21PM

  It HAS to be subjective, zn...

JamesJM126December 21, 2018 04:38PM

  well it's not

zn113December 21, 2018 04:47PM

  LOL, but again...

JamesJM99December 21, 2018 04:50PM

  Re: LOL, but again...

zn95December 21, 2018 05:11PM

  Agreed. (nm)

JamesJM62December 21, 2018 05:14PM

  well there were some plays that had me rethinking Goff a bit more....

SunTzu_vs_Camus72December 29, 2018 02:00AM

  I basically agree

zn55December 29, 2018 06:54AM

  yeah, I was in pain early this am...and I write accordingly...lol

SunTzu_vs_Camus84December 29, 2018 09:26AM

  Re: Just rewatched the 4th quarter

stlramz166December 21, 2018 11:03AM

  Re: very much accurate

Speed_Kills150December 21, 2018 01:33PM

  Re: very much accurate

zn144December 21, 2018 03:33PM

  Re: good take

Speed_Kills81December 21, 2018 04:05PM

  Re: good take

zn83December 21, 2018 04:16PM

  Re: well it wasn’t about one play

Speed_Kills85December 21, 2018 04:23PM

  and on that we agree

zn90December 21, 2018 04:28PM

  Re: and on that we agree

leafnose78December 22, 2018 04:28AM