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Re: I know and we disagree

July 26, 2018 02:59PM
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RamUK
If you know anything about psychology, and I'm sure you do, pride is tightly linked to ego.

Again I reiterate, I'd pay him anything he wants that doesn't then screw up other contracts, I believe he's not just the best player in the league, but probably easily so.

Having said that, the way the game is structured means he can never have the week in week out impact of a very good QB.

If he left and we replaced him with a bottom 35% DT it would be an issue, but not insurmountable with our Dline.

OTOH if Goff went and we replaced him with a bottom 35% QB, we're utterly screwed.

Saying someone does something out of pride implies things like integrity and and stalwartness. Either way no I dont' see an ego asking for huge amount, more than anyone etc...that's just not what's happening. He is asking for a reasonable increase given his value as a player.

And no one has the week in week out impact of a good qb, yet the money being talked about with Donald is not qb money. In 2018 the money for qb 2nd contracts (and that's the standard for other 2nd contracts) is 28 M. He's not asking for 28 M. He will probably get 23-24 M, and that stopped being qb money after 2015.

There is room for a highly productive elite DT even if he's not a qb. PLUS the cap implications have been endlessly discussed, and yes you can pay Donald, pay Goff, and a core of others, and be healthy under the cap. It's juist not an issue. The principle is you build around your core elite players especially the one s with character, and Donald is one of those.

Either way the math is simple. Donald is not asking for a HUGE amount given the parameters of paying a "top defender" in 2018. He is asking for a reasonable amount GIVEN those parameters.

There is no particularly good reason for short-changing him. Especially since, chances are, you risk losing him if you do.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/26/2018 03:02PM by zn.
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  Ok, I'm probably reading this wrong. Somebody correct me.

Saguaro737July 26, 2018 11:42AM

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Rampage2K-259July 26, 2018 11:58AM

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David Deacon185July 26, 2018 12:21PM

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zn177July 26, 2018 01:20PM

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Rampage2K-147July 26, 2018 01:39PM

  Going from $19mm/yr to $21mm/yr is a 10.5% raise...

Ramsfsninmd140July 26, 2018 01:44PM

  wrong math

zn163July 26, 2018 02:04PM

  I think you're saying one thing & then using other numbers...

Ramsfsninmd168July 26, 2018 02:17PM

  nope

zn115July 26, 2018 02:27PM

  Re: wrong math

Rampage2K-165July 26, 2018 02:19PM

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VANRAM171July 26, 2018 02:40PM

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zn110July 26, 2018 02:52PM

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zn110July 26, 2018 04:04PM

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SUretHing252July 26, 2018 12:59PM

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dzrams256July 26, 2018 01:02PM

  Thanks, dz.

Saguaro117July 26, 2018 02:03PM

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dzrams259July 26, 2018 02:56PM

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zn249July 26, 2018 03:13PM

  2 things

AlbaNY_Ram135July 26, 2018 02:03PM

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dzrams123July 26, 2018 03:20PM

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AlbaNY_Ram182July 26, 2018 06:07PM

  Interesting point DZ

Rampage2K-116July 26, 2018 02:09PM

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dzrams86July 26, 2018 07:54PM

  Re: Interesting point DZ

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  dz if they did it like this no wonder there were probems

zn111July 26, 2018 02:43PM

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dzrams132July 26, 2018 03:01PM

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zn207July 26, 2018 03:09PM

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dzrams107July 26, 2018 03:25PM

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zn100July 26, 2018 03:27PM

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zn153July 26, 2018 01:04PM

  I keep saying - this aint about the money

RamUK160July 26, 2018 01:40PM

  My opinion differs

Atlantic Ram116July 26, 2018 02:06PM

  Re: I keep saying - this aint about the money

zn198July 26, 2018 02:11PM

  I know and we disagree

RamUK121July 26, 2018 02:47PM

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zn166July 26, 2018 02:59PM

  Zack you're spending half you waking life

RamUK123July 26, 2018 03:12PM

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zn138July 26, 2018 03:17PM

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Rams43115July 26, 2018 05:44PM

  If that were the case

RamUK115July 26, 2018 02:51PM

  Re: If that were the case

zn141July 26, 2018 03:20PM

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Ramsdude134July 26, 2018 02:26PM

  what would Merlin Olsen or Jack Youngblood have cost?

LMU93127July 26, 2018 03:48PM

  Re: what would Merlin Olsen or Jack Youngblood have cost?

zn147July 26, 2018 04:16PM

  They would have never held out. Nm

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