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Re: well that wasn't true of the other players who did this

July 25, 2018 12:49PM
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BarryRams
My point being if you want to get paid early, you have to give something back, its negotiating 101, you can't get something for nothing. I'm not pro labor like your self, or pro management like others, I see it strictly as a give and take thing, if he was a free agent, then set a new precedent, be the highest paid player, get your money, but as long as the Ram's have some leverage, he has to give something in return, and maybe he is, but based on the numbers, 21 would be insulting if he was a free agent.

And if you want to keep a player you also have to give something up and that is what makes it negotiation.

In fact every single player who went for the 3rd year re-negotiation option came out of it as the highest paid player at his position that year.

The difference being, Donald's category is "best defender in the league."

It is a give and take thing and that works both ways. So for example I think based on the whole situation that 21 M is not enough in 2018 for "best defender in the league." I think it's also no accident that Mack is going through the same thing.

And btw if you are going to identify my position for me, let me identify yours for you. Everything you say is pro-management tilted. I am familiar with that tilt going back to 99 and 2000 when there were debates about Faulk's new contract and then Warner's new contract. See that's the problem with telling somone their position...it's fair game to turn the tables. You do not come across as neutral, objective, or any of that. Your spin is pro-management. If you can tell me my "bias" I can point out yours.

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Huh? Tell that to Kalil Mack, OBJ etc....

ALL PLAYERS ARE ELIGIBLE TO RENEGOTIATE THEIR ROOKIE CONTRACT AFTER THEIR THIRD YEAR....it's not some sort of option thing.

who are these three year players that reset the market EVERY TIME Who?



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  Donald numbers leaked....

max2316July 25, 2018 11:40AM

  Well

Speedball89443July 25, 2018 11:45AM

  What?

jemach730July 25, 2018 12:51PM

  21 million sounds right on the money (nm)

Ram_Ruler303July 25, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: What?

Speedball89320July 25, 2018 02:28PM

  Re: Just like American Pickers.......

oldschoolramfan259July 26, 2018 07:03AM

  negotiation

zn879July 25, 2018 11:55AM

  I'm not a negotiator, but I don't think halfway is automatic.

Saguaro325July 25, 2018 02:11PM

  well but

zn294July 25, 2018 02:27PM

  Wrong. That is not how high powered negotiations work

RockRam311July 25, 2018 02:34PM

  Gotta agree on the highest paid in history nonsense

RamUK265July 26, 2018 03:33AM

  Re: Gotta agree on the highest paid in history nonsense

Rampage2K-260July 26, 2018 09:47AM

  Re: Gotta agree on the highest paid in history nonsense

Rams43313July 26, 2018 09:50AM

  Re: totally believable

Speed_Kills389July 25, 2018 11:56AM

  Re: totally believable

zn424July 25, 2018 11:59AM

  Re: totally believable

BarryRams382July 25, 2018 12:08PM

  that's not quite true

zn401July 25, 2018 12:18PM

  Re: that's not quite true

BarryRams358July 25, 2018 12:21PM

  well that wasn't true of the other players who did this

zn288July 25, 2018 12:40PM

  Re: well that wasn't true of the other players who did this

Rampage2K-297July 25, 2018 12:49PM

  Re: well that wasn't true of the other players who did this

k3327July 25, 2018 01:02PM

  Re: well that wasn't true of the other players who did this

BarryRams287July 25, 2018 01:57PM

  Re: well that wasn't true of the other players who did this

BarryRams248July 25, 2018 01:53PM

  yes on contracts

zn357July 25, 2018 04:15PM

  He's given the Rams 4 Pro Bowl performances...

jemach281July 25, 2018 12:55PM

  Re: He's given the Rams 4 Pro Bowl performances...

Rampage2K-319July 25, 2018 01:05PM

  I see...

jemach326July 25, 2018 01:09PM

  Re: I see...

Rampage2K-696July 25, 2018 01:15PM

  Yes...

jemach503July 25, 2018 01:21PM

  Re: I see...

Ramrooter248July 25, 2018 03:04PM

  And...he comes to camp...

jemach278July 25, 2018 04:40PM

  Re: I see...

Ekern55257July 25, 2018 04:26PM

  Re: I see... $10.00

chico n da rams251July 25, 2018 03:07PM

  "all the risk is on the players".... disagree...

RAMbler294July 26, 2018 10:43AM

  Re: He's given the Rams 4 Pro Bowl performances...

EastRam395July 25, 2018 01:15PM

  Re: He's given the Rams 4 Pro Bowl performances...

Rampage2K-829July 25, 2018 01:25PM

  The current top QB money is higher...

jemach236July 25, 2018 01:28PM

  stop......Donald is not equal to top QB in NFL

ferragamo79243July 25, 2018 04:30PM

  there's confusion about this

zn267July 25, 2018 04:42PM

  And he won't get $30,000,000

jemach224July 26, 2018 04:10AM

  who has a bigger impact on the team

ferragamo79263July 26, 2018 08:43AM

  Re: who has a bigger impact on the team

zn319July 26, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: who has a bigger impact on the team

Rams43268July 26, 2018 09:47AM

  I'd like to see that study

CeeZar447July 26, 2018 10:26AM

  Re: I'd like to see that study

Rampage2K-449July 26, 2018 10:31AM

  Re: totally believable

RFIP233July 26, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: it’s really about the guaranteed money though right?

Speed_Kills316July 26, 2018 05:50AM

  Re: but what?

dzrams602July 26, 2018 10:51AM

  Re: what is your line in the sand offer? nm

Speed_Kills285July 26, 2018 10:54AM

  Re: I've been consistent at about $23-24M... nm

dzrams258July 26, 2018 10:56AM

  Re what’s your guaranteed number? Nm

Speed_Kills260July 26, 2018 11:55AM

  Re: $80M range... Nm

dzrams650July 26, 2018 01:34PM

  Agree

max264July 25, 2018 12:08PM

  Re: Agree

Ramsdude267July 25, 2018 12:13PM

  Re: Agree

max281July 25, 2018 12:16PM

  Re: totally believable

DamRam391July 25, 2018 02:29PM

  Re: totally believable

Ramsdude238July 25, 2018 02:36PM

  10% Higher than highest defensive contract ever

David Deacon380July 26, 2018 12:13PM

  Re: 10% Higher than highest defensive contract ever

Ramsdude274July 26, 2018 12:24PM

  Geller corrects TST

max436July 25, 2018 12:01PM

  Re: Geller corrects TST

bigjimram21244July 26, 2018 03:24AM

  Quite possible

CeeZar234July 26, 2018 03:41AM

  Re: Donald numbers leaked....

Ramsdude570July 25, 2018 12:10PM

  article.

zn378July 25, 2018 12:10PM

  Just about what I predicted weeks ago...Donald should have worked on his jump shot

Rampage2K-356July 25, 2018 12:16PM

  How about we call it $22.5 per and shake hands?

DaJudge363July 25, 2018 12:27PM

  Re: How about we call it $22.5 per and shake hands?

Ramsdude310July 25, 2018 12:32PM

  I think it's more 23/24 with 80 M guaranteed

zn404July 25, 2018 12:50PM

  Re: I think it's more 23/24 with 80 M guaranteed

BarryRams776July 25, 2018 01:58PM

  Non-exclusive franchise tag:

SunTzu_vs_Camus233July 26, 2018 03:48AM

  Re: I think it's more 23/24 with 80 M guaranteed

bigjimram21228July 26, 2018 03:33AM

  $22M is my ceiling......

Rampage2K-248July 25, 2018 12:54PM

  Re: $22M is my ceiling......

jemach421July 25, 2018 12:57PM

  1 million means plenty to the rams

Ram_Ruler989July 25, 2018 01:41PM

  they're not going to do all of those and no good team does everyone

zn300July 25, 2018 01:53PM

  I agree that they won't get all of them

Ram_Ruler291July 25, 2018 02:07PM

  Re: Top Heavy...

dzrams247July 25, 2018 10:30PM

  Joyner is a goner...and if he did show up out of shape...

jemach518July 25, 2018 04:43PM

  there's nothing out there saying he showed up out of shape

zn243July 25, 2018 04:55PM

  Re: $22M is my ceiling......

DamRam250July 25, 2018 02:55PM

  This is good news.

stlramz408July 25, 2018 01:09PM

  I think deal gets done...

jemach321July 25, 2018 01:11PM

  How does 8/7 actually affect anything in reality

Atlantic Ram422July 25, 2018 01:36PM

  Anyone?

Atlantic Ram258July 25, 2018 06:07PM

  Re: Anyone?

zn386July 25, 2018 06:58PM

  Thanks!

Atlantic Ram282July 25, 2018 08:19PM

  Re: This is good news.

bigjimram21218July 26, 2018 04:23PM

  Re: Donald numbers leaked....

no name347July 25, 2018 02:54PM

  it's not an "early contract"..

zn264July 25, 2018 03:31PM

  Re: it's not an "early contract"..

no name235July 25, 2018 07:05PM

  Re: it's not an "early contract"..

no name235July 25, 2018 07:15PM

  Re: it's not an "early contract"..

zn260July 25, 2018 08:14PM

  Re: it's not an "early contract"..

no name659July 26, 2018 04:32AM

  Donald will set one record for sure

max293July 25, 2018 04:50PM

  Re: Donald will set one record for sure

zn247July 25, 2018 05:05PM

  Re: Donald will set one record for sure

Hollywood Ram328July 25, 2018 05:41PM

  Re: Donald will set one record for sure

zn461July 25, 2018 05:55PM

  Re: Donald will set one record for sure

Hollywood Ram367July 25, 2018 06:04PM

  Re: Donald will set one record for sure

zn240July 25, 2018 06:16PM

  Re: Donald will set one record for sure

Hollywood Ram390July 25, 2018 07:24PM

  Re: Donald will set one record for sure

zn492July 25, 2018 07:32PM

  Re: Donald will set one record for sure

AlbaNY_Ram296July 25, 2018 05:12PM

  Thx for data supporting my point.

max250July 25, 2018 05:23PM

  Re: Donald will set one record for sure

zn305July 25, 2018 05:31PM

  sounds like Donald to Pittsburgh for what ever they feel like giving up..nm

VANRAM229July 25, 2018 05:37PM

  Re: Joe Curley vouches for him

Speedball89401July 25, 2018 05:55PM

  yup, apparently Rams leaked it

max285July 25, 2018 07:30PM

  Re: yup, apparently Rams leaked it

Rams43255July 25, 2018 07:52PM

  Re: yup, apparently Rams leaked it

max249July 25, 2018 08:14PM

  the simple fact is 25 M is just not unreasonable

zn236July 26, 2018 04:24AM

  that’s not fact, it’s opinion.

max243July 26, 2018 04:49AM

  "reasonable/unreasonable" are obviously opinions

zn224July 26, 2018 05:02AM

  Re: "reasonable/unreasonable" are obviously opinions

max358July 26, 2018 05:36AM

  you're misreading

zn286July 26, 2018 11:10AM

  Re: I suspect someone knows....

dzrams234July 26, 2018 10:22AM

  I still say.....

NewMexicoRam293July 25, 2018 05:56PM

  Re: Donald numbers leaked....

3030343July 25, 2018 06:04PM

  Re: Donald numbers leaked....

CeeZar263July 26, 2018 07:24AM

  Re: Donald numbers leaked....

Speedball89310July 26, 2018 08:49AM

  Re: Donald numbers leaked....

3030539July 26, 2018 05:06PM

  More from Geller...

max384July 26, 2018 06:51AM

  Re: More from Geller... The Donald hype continues:

Anonymous User299July 26, 2018 06:06PM