September 18, 2017 09:21PM
According to Gonzalez over at ESPN, today McVay said that the kick off rules were correctly enforced.

So, Headslap, you're right-- it's an awful rule that could be potentially exploited, or at least enforced in a way that's horribly unfair to the receiving team, as it was in this case.

Rampage, you're right too in that, yes, if Cooper had caught the ball in the endzone and then advanced it to the five, and there were offsetting penalties during the return, then the Rams would be rewarded with starting the drive at the 25. Crazy as it sounds.

And RFIP, you are mostly right too, in that yes, as the rules are now written, offsetting penalties during a change of possession play means that the ball is indeed placed at the point where change of possession occurred. (This was not the case prior to 2016, though. Prior to 2016, consideration was given to the severity of the penalty and also to the location of the infraction.)

And lyser and ferragamo, you are both right in that all teams have every incentive nowadays to play it safe and just take the ball at the 25 whenever possible. The NFL is doing whatever it can to discourage teams from returning kickoffs, and this rule is in a way a part of that.

Lastly, I'm right, too-- the rule is just terrible and stupid. Just glad to have clarity-- Boger correctly enforced a badly conceived rule.

If Washington had not committed a penalty, the Rams would have gotten the ball at around the 10 yard line (based on the fact that the Rams holding call occurred at about the 20). But because Wash committed a personal foul during the run of play, the "offsetting penalties on change of possession" rule is applied, and the Rams have to take the ball at the point of possession change, at the two. So, in this instance, Washington clearly benefits from having committed a foul.

Stupid, stupid rule that should be changed.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/18/2017 09:42PM by XXXIVwin.
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  So the call on the Kickoff??

Headslap751033September 17, 2017 05:00PM

  Re: So the call on the Kickoff??

NorCalRamFan399September 17, 2017 05:12PM

  the penalties offset and nullified the return

Atlantic Ram401September 17, 2017 06:10PM

  Re: the penalties offset and nullified the return

Headslap75375September 17, 2017 06:16PM

  Sounds right

Atlantic Ram346September 17, 2017 07:44PM

  Re: the penalties offset and nullified the return

XXXIVwin353September 17, 2017 09:19PM

  Re: the penalties offset and nullified the return

XXXIVwin313September 17, 2017 10:46PM

  Here's what you are missing

RFIP300September 18, 2017 12:38AM

  kind of like the Tuck Rule........

21Dog266September 18, 2017 04:11AM

  Re: Here's what you are missing

Headslap75262September 18, 2017 08:03AM

  Re: Here's what you are missing

Headslap75290September 18, 2017 08:06AM

  Re: Here's what you are missing

XXXIVwin271September 18, 2017 08:34AM

  Re: Here's what you are missing

RFIP267September 18, 2017 08:59AM

  Re: Here's what you are missing

Rampage2K-238September 18, 2017 09:09AM

  Touch back..nm

RFIP249September 18, 2017 09:22AM

  Re: Here's what you are missing

XXXIVwin240September 18, 2017 09:17AM

  Re: Here's what you are missing

Rampage2K-265September 18, 2017 09:22AM

  Re: Here's what you are missing

XXXIVwin273September 18, 2017 09:24AM

  Why?

RFIP252September 18, 2017 09:28AM

  Re: Why?

XXXIVwin276September 18, 2017 09:58AM

  Re: Why?

RFIP246September 18, 2017 10:02AM

  Re: Why?

XXXIVwin251September 18, 2017 10:07AM

  Re: Why?

Rampage2K-252September 18, 2017 10:27AM

  Re: Why?

XXXIVwin239September 18, 2017 10:39AM

  Bad rule correctly enforced

XXXIVwin253September 18, 2017 09:21PM

  Re: Bad rule correctly enforced

Rampage2K-230September 19, 2017 07:39AM

  Re: Bad rule correctly enforced

XXXIVwin242September 19, 2017 09:01AM

  and he did explain it...nm

RFIP210September 18, 2017 10:53AM

  Re: You're wrong....

Rampage2K-238September 18, 2017 11:07AM

  Re: Here's what you are missing

RFIP227September 18, 2017 09:27AM

  Re: Here's what you are missing

Rampage2K-243September 18, 2017 09:31AM

  A truly bizarre rule

sacram384September 17, 2017 06:18PM

  Do the Rams seem to get a lot of holding penalties

Atlantic Ram322September 17, 2017 07:49PM

  Re: Do the Rams seem to get a lot of holding penalties

DESERT RAM318September 17, 2017 08:48PM

  Re: Do the Rams seem to get a lot of holding penalties

sacram248September 18, 2017 07:43AM

  why bother returning a KO

ferragamo79255September 18, 2017 09:29AM

  My thoughts exactly BUT

RFIP249September 18, 2017 09:43AM