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Re: Here's what you are missing

September 18, 2017 09:22AM
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XXXIVwin
RFIP, help me out on this question, then.

How many times have we heard that ominous phrase, "During the return....".

By definition, when the fouls are "during the return,' they occur AFTER possession has been established by the receiving team.

Hypothetical example: Pharoh Cooper catches a kickoff at his own 6 yard line. He returns it to his own 38. However, during his return, one of his teammates commits an illegal block in the back at the 27 yard line. So, according to the rules, the Rams begin the drive on their own 17-- i.e., 10 yards behind the spot of the foul. Right?

I have never seen the case where a penalty "during the return" is assessed from the spot where the returner CAUGHT the ball.

According to your reasoning, RFIP, in my (above) hypothetical example, the Rams "block in the back" penalty would be enforced at the point Cooper CAUGHT the ball-- ie., enforced at the 6, so the Rams take over at the 3. But I have NEVER seen a penalty during a kick return enforced in this manner.

The "offsetting penalty" situation makes it a bit more complicated. But I just wanted to establish that everyone is in agreement about what would happen if just ONE penalty were called on the receiving team.

Again, something just fundamentally does not make sense, but I'm looking forward to clarity at least about what the NFL's mistake is! I'm just trying to establish whether it's (a) Boger's mistake or (b) a flawed rule, and I haven't heard a definitive answer yet.

According to Blandino that is the "correct call". ....although I've never ever ever seen it called that way.

Like I said, it was a complete joke. So if Cooper caught it in the endzone and ran it out to the 5 yardline...we would be rewarded with an automatic touchback and ball placed on the 25 yard line?????? Wow!!!



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  So the call on the Kickoff??

Headslap751030September 17, 2017 05:00PM

  Re: So the call on the Kickoff??

NorCalRamFan398September 17, 2017 05:12PM

  the penalties offset and nullified the return

Atlantic Ram401September 17, 2017 06:10PM

  Re: the penalties offset and nullified the return

Headslap75374September 17, 2017 06:16PM

  Sounds right

Atlantic Ram345September 17, 2017 07:44PM

  Re: the penalties offset and nullified the return

XXXIVwin352September 17, 2017 09:19PM

  Re: the penalties offset and nullified the return

XXXIVwin312September 17, 2017 10:46PM

  Here's what you are missing

RFIP300September 18, 2017 12:38AM

  kind of like the Tuck Rule........

21Dog265September 18, 2017 04:11AM

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Headslap75261September 18, 2017 08:03AM

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Headslap75287September 18, 2017 08:06AM

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XXXIVwin270September 18, 2017 08:34AM

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RFIP266September 18, 2017 08:59AM

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Rampage2K-238September 18, 2017 09:09AM

  Touch back..nm

RFIP248September 18, 2017 09:22AM

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XXXIVwin240September 18, 2017 09:17AM

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Rampage2K-263September 18, 2017 09:22AM

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XXXIVwin273September 18, 2017 09:24AM

  Why?

RFIP251September 18, 2017 09:28AM

  Re: Why?

XXXIVwin274September 18, 2017 09:58AM

  Re: Why?

RFIP245September 18, 2017 10:02AM

  Re: Why?

XXXIVwin250September 18, 2017 10:07AM

  Re: Why?

Rampage2K-252September 18, 2017 10:27AM

  Re: Why?

XXXIVwin239September 18, 2017 10:39AM

  Bad rule correctly enforced

XXXIVwin252September 18, 2017 09:21PM

  Re: Bad rule correctly enforced

Rampage2K-229September 19, 2017 07:39AM

  Re: Bad rule correctly enforced

XXXIVwin242September 19, 2017 09:01AM

  and he did explain it...nm

RFIP210September 18, 2017 10:53AM

  Re: You're wrong....

Rampage2K-236September 18, 2017 11:07AM

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RFIP227September 18, 2017 09:27AM

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Rampage2K-242September 18, 2017 09:31AM

  A truly bizarre rule

sacram383September 17, 2017 06:18PM

  Do the Rams seem to get a lot of holding penalties

Atlantic Ram321September 17, 2017 07:49PM

  Re: Do the Rams seem to get a lot of holding penalties

DESERT RAM316September 17, 2017 08:48PM

  Re: Do the Rams seem to get a lot of holding penalties

sacram248September 18, 2017 07:43AM

  why bother returning a KO

ferragamo79255September 18, 2017 09:29AM

  My thoughts exactly BUT

RFIP248September 18, 2017 09:43AM