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Re: the real issue with nursing homes

June 29, 2020 05:06PM
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AlbaNY_Ram
CA has 147,000 workers in in licensed long-term care facilities. [www.cahf.org]
NY has 205,000. [www.lohud.com]

NY easily had 10 times as many infected staff as CA and likely 14 times more (based on mortality rates of the general populations in both states). Just to illustrate the impact, assume a 1% infection rate in CA: that would translate to 1,470 infected workers in CA and somewhere between 20,500 and 28,700 infected workers in NY. The actual numbers are probably different but the ratios would be the same: around 15 times as many infected workers taking care of nursing home patients in NY than in CA.

To break that down, that's an average of 1.2 infected staff per facility in CA and around 35.2 infected staff per facility in NY. Do you think that might impact how many residents catch COVID?

CA has approximately 1,230 licensed long-term care nursing facilities. [www.cahf.org].
NY has 627. [www.dibbern.com]

CA has an average of 82 residents per facility, NY has an average of 162. Could having nearly twice the resident density contribute to the spread of COVID in a particular facility?

CA has 120,000 nursing home beds. [canhr.org]
NY has 116,000. [www.dibbern.com]

CA's vacancy rate is 15.8%, NY's is 12.5%. Not a big difference, but wouldn't you think having a little extra space would be a positive?

Ignoring these variables (and likely many others) when talking about nursing home fatalities is as ridiculous as my nonsenical-to-make-a-point comment about earthquakes.

Hard to understand your argument there, AlbaNY.

An objective bystander would almost have to conclude that there was a gross dereliction of duty on the part of New York in terms of policy, nursing home employee training, and/or performance of duties. As high up as the Governors office straight down to the nurses caring for their patients.

If I had a loved one needing nursing home care, I certainly would prefer a random California home to one in New York. All else is rationalization, it seems to me. Sorry.
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