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Re: I think it IS in character with McVay

February 01, 2021 09:30AM
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PHDram
The whole thing seems out of character for mcvay. This is just speculation but maybe the LA lifestyle and the model gf distracted goff?

And it's interesting that the automatic, immediate, kneejerk idea is that it must have been all Goff.

We've seen things from McVay indicating that he has a temper and wants to micro-manage.

We've seen things from Goff to indicate that he reacts badly to that kind of environment.

It's the opposite of Vermeil, who was always trying to support guys--to a fault.

Well maybe there's such a thing as making things toxic when you want to push a player or if there are differences over something. Martz was certainly that way. He could be downright abusive with players.

That kind of irritable impatience can work sometimes--Staley was better than Wade (though we never saw Wade with an off-season to build around Ramsey).

The new STs coach, though, wasn't better than Fassel.

And it's not entirely clear that spending high picks on 2 different WRs you both moved on from (with dead money from one of them clogging the cap) was the smartest thing. Now they have no deep threat after having spent a 1st and a 2nd rounder in 2 successive years on WRs they didn't keep.

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I've read plenty of posts where people are not only open to the possibility that McVay is culpable but is also the problem. Not that PHD needs any help but he was just offering a speculation, not proclaiming anything.

To me, it's clear by what we've seen and read that McVay and Snead did not handle this thing great. At the same time however, they didn't feel Goff was their answer at QB. I think both of these things are true. We may never know the gritty details but McVay and Snead felt strongly enough, right or wrong, about Goff not being what they felt they need, that they essentially paid the Lions to take him.

I've always like Goff as he seems like a good kid and human being. But as the QB for my Rams I have to admit I've been less than happy with his play. I think Stafford will bring more to the table.



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  I think it IS in character with McVay

zn238January 31, 2021 01:34AM

  Wrong and revisionist

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  Re: Wrong and revisionist

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  Re: Still an assumption here though...

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  Re: Incorrect sir!

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  nope

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  Re: I think it IS in character with McVay

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  Re: I think it IS in character with McVay

zn125February 01, 2021 09:37AM

  Re: I think it IS in character with McVay

RamsFanSinceLA170February 01, 2021 09:44AM

  Well said.

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  Re: +1...nm

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  Re: you get the feeling McVay was actually

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  Ouch

Drew2839231January 31, 2021 09:44AM

  Weird

PHDram180January 31, 2021 10:56AM

  Re: Weird

waterfield212January 31, 2021 02:41PM

  I just dont get what you think is weird

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  Re: I just dont get what you think is weird

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  Re: Agreed on McVay....

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  Concensus

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