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the issue isn't "pressure" taken in itself

February 07, 2020 06:10AM
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Speed_Kills
is that his play declined once the oline started struggling in pass protection

that’s something you are in tune with when it comes to Goff but here you focus on Jimmy G

he was 18 of 21 and on his way to MVP prior to the 49ers going into pass mode there final 3 series and getting away from their play action game

i’m just surprised you have yet to comment on it

First, I am firmly in the camp that says Goff is better than Garagepolo. I am not very likely to yield on that.

And my issue with the Rams wasn't pressures. That's only part of it. So it's actually inaccurate to say my issue is qb pressures. As I said that is only PART of it. My issue is overall OL stability. A subpar or heavily injured OL is a problem from the start of the game to the end. It's a problem BEFORE the game. Playcalling changes, the qb knows they do not have a stable platform before the 1st snap, and so on. Lots and lots of consequences.

With Jimmy G, you are just talking about the 4th quarter--not a clear and distinct disadvantage going into the game. With their run game, with their FB and TEs, the 49ers could usually shield Jimmy G and they could enter games confident that the OL situation would not be a disasadvantage from snap 1. Rams never had that option in any games against top defenses. So Goff played under much more unstable conditions.

But you brought up pressures so let's look at pressures. In this case I will look at the relatively more stable OL the Rams had in the 2nd half of 2019 (in spite of the OL starting 3 injury replacements).

Comparing the Rams against the SF D in December to the 49ers in the superbowl.

In the December SF game, Goff was pressured 12 times against what we all agree is a very strong D front.
His numbers: 27 of 43, 323 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT, & a qb rating of 85.7. And no running game.
In the 4th quarter, with the game on the line, coming from behind, he was 4 of 6 for 38 yards.

In the superbowl, JImmy G was pressured 8 times.
His numbers: 20 of 31, 219 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, & a qb rating of 69.2.
In the 4th quarter, with the game on the line, he was 3 of 11 for 36 yards & 1 INT.

As I would expect, Goff was much better under roughly similar circumstances, and that was while facing more pressures.

Jimmy G is better shielded from bad game conditions that Goff was overall, yet in roughly similar circumstances Goff came though and Jimmy G did not.







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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/07/2020 06:21AM by zn.
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  Good stuff, Bosa in Mahomes lap all day...

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  Re: Good stuff, Bosa in Mahomes lap all day...

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  Re: Good stuff, Bosa in Mahomes lap all day...

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  Re: Good stuff, Bosa in Mahomes lap all day...

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  I think the most underrated element of Mahomes

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  Here’s the thing...

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  Re: Here’s the thing...

zn203February 06, 2020 04:21AM

  Re: Here’s the thing...

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  Re: Here’s the thing...

zn238February 06, 2020 04:44AM

  I think both defenses were a key in this one....

RAMbler232February 06, 2020 06:36AM

  Re: Here’s the thing...

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  Re: Here’s the thing...

zn175February 06, 2020 03:54PM

  Re: what I don’t get about your take on Jim G

Speed_Kills166February 07, 2020 03:02AM

  the issue isn't "pressure" taken in itself

zn175February 07, 2020 06:10AM

  Re: hmmm interesting

Speed_Kills196February 07, 2020 06:36AM

  Re: hmmm interesting

zn141February 07, 2020 10:01AM

  Re: no that's not always the context you have used

Speed_Kills153February 07, 2020 10:38AM

  yes it is

zn160February 07, 2020 04:16PM

  Like I said - no that’s not always the context

Speed_Kills184February 08, 2020 04:24AM

  speed

zn186February 08, 2020 04:32AM

  Both Speed Kills and zn....

73Ram333February 08, 2020 04:55AM

  Re: Both Speed Kills and zn....

zn175February 08, 2020 04:57AM

  Re: ok 73. i’m good with ending thx man nm

Speed_Kills171February 08, 2020 05:00AM

  Nice post

max235February 07, 2020 11:12AM

  thanks

zn150February 07, 2020 04:26PM

  Re: Here’s the thing...

zn193February 06, 2020 04:41AM

  Re: A couple of things if I can chime in here

Speed_Kills172February 07, 2020 02:49AM

  Bosa and Mahomes

21Dog225February 06, 2020 06:10AM

  max you will appreciate this

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  Re: max you will appreciate this

max201February 07, 2020 03:52AM

  Re: How average he is under pressure

Speed_Kills155February 07, 2020 04:11AM

  Re: How average he is under pressure

max150February 07, 2020 04:33AM

  Re: you mean Jimmy G

Speed_Kills233February 07, 2020 04:39AM

  Re: you mean Jimmy G

max176February 07, 2020 04:46AM

  Re: well at least

Speed_Kills237February 07, 2020 04:53AM

  Re: well at least

max158February 07, 2020 05:23AM

  Re: who said anything about handing it off

Speed_Kills308February 07, 2020 05:33AM

  that abandoning the run doomed the 49ers.......

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  Re: max you will appreciate this

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