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September 13, 2019 05:29AM
I can't get into a lot of replies for mental health reasons if nothing else smiling smiley but let me address a few things yall have brought up:

1) Rams vs Refs

I promise you that while Saints fans very much want to beat the Rams, they are 1000x more pissed off at the refs/NFL than they are the Rams. What you also need to understand is that it wasn't *just* the No Call, it was the way the league basically rubbed our noses in it for weeks on end, stonewalling and refusing to make any real public acknowledgement of the call. After this last MNF game Al Riveron (how he remains employed is a mystery, but that's another topic) put out a detailed statement acknowledging that the refs screwed up the clock at the end of the first half, costing the Saints 15 seconds. We ended up missing a 56 yarder as the half ended. The NFL has made similar statements before when they made very public errors (like the Fail Mary in Seattle with replacement refs).

Had the NFL issued a similar statement after the NFCCG, it would have gone a long way to calming the waters. Instead the league went into hiding. Pathetic. Personally all I wanted was a statement that said, 'It should have been 1st and goal.' We couldn't even get that.

This brings us back around to how much we hate Goodell, stemming from BountyGate and the resulting foolishness. The dude is a straight up liar and the No Call was just another reminder of how bad he is at his job.

So, anyway, don't worry, we don't blame the Rams for the No Call. We blame the NFL and are pissed about how they handled it. The Rams benefited from it so nobody is about to make the Rams their 2nd team, but its a different thing entirely.

2) Other Calls!

OK, sure. Of course. I've never gone back to watch the game so I can't say one way or the other but of course there are always bad calls. But its not very often that a blown call enters the national conversation to the point that its on every late night show, every daytime talk show, everywhere. I saw the Stones in the Dome last month and friggin Mick Jagger made a No Call joke from the stage. This was something bigger than your average missed holding call on a 2 yard rush. It just was.

3) Whining, wallowing

We all deal with stuff differently but most of the Saints fans I talk with are past whining about what happened and have adopted a purely nihilist, burn it all down mentality. We'd all like nothing more than for every team to get completely boned by the new PI rule. For every talking head that complains "the Saints ruined football!" or "Get over it!" we want 3 more blown calls. We actually enjoy being called names at this point. What's the worst that can happen? We've already been through Beastquake, SF/Alex Smith last second loss, the Minny Miracle, and now the No Call. Short of a suitcase nuke going off during a game, we've been through just about everything.

Saints fans are probably the most passionate fans in the NFL - we routinely have higher ratings for FALCONS games in New Orleans than they do in ATLANTA because everyone is hatewatching them. So we are all wrestling with how to deal with the fact that we LOVE the Saints but we HATE the NFL. It's tough to square that circle. In my case, it's meant taking a much more hands-off approach. I'll watch Saints games, but probably not any other games. I'm conscious about not clicking through to any NFL content, especially for league-owned media. It's a fruitless gesture but I feel better.

So, with all that said, I again offer you a sincere good luck and enjoy the game. I will probably go play golf if it starts to go badly, so don't worry about me. winking smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2019 05:30AM by saints_alive.
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  No, I'm not over it

saints_alive1377September 12, 2019 10:05AM

  You got a lot of class, SA!

Saguaro518September 12, 2019 10:07AM

  Re: No, I'm not over it

Classicalwit469September 12, 2019 10:23AM

  With Rankins out, I pick Rams--- I agree

Steve562September 12, 2019 10:29AM

  I'll never get over the Pats cheating against us

no name432September 12, 2019 10:48AM

  Yes, that just about destroyed NFL watching for me

NewMexicoRam368September 12, 2019 11:42AM

  Re: No, I'm not over it

LoboRam284September 12, 2019 10:57AM

  Cheating v Ref error

RFL382September 12, 2019 11:23AM

  I agree with this

Atlantic Ram272September 12, 2019 02:20PM

  The big difference is....

Ramgator265September 12, 2019 02:36PM

  I am hoping in the future there is an asterisks

Atlantic Ram272September 12, 2019 02:48PM

  Weeell, I have seen any asterisks next to Barry Bonds name so..... nm

RAMbler172September 16, 2019 06:56AM

  Curling rules!

sstrams307September 12, 2019 02:32PM

  Re: No, I'm not over it

cool_hand_luke253September 12, 2019 02:35PM

  Re: No, I'm not over it

george_allen307September 12, 2019 04:22PM

  one play doesn't win or lose a game.....

Rampage2K-313September 12, 2019 04:33PM

  You kinda said what I was thinking

RamUK289September 12, 2019 05:12PM

  Replies

saints_alive444September 13, 2019 05:29AM

  The league admitted it right after it happened.....

Rampage2K-465September 13, 2019 05:49AM

  Re: Replies

3030392September 13, 2019 05:56AM

  Replies to replies.

Saguaro314September 13, 2019 07:32AM

  Re: Replies to replies.

kw13312September 14, 2019 10:53AM

  Check out The Undoing Project by Michael Lewis

RamUK350September 13, 2019 08:04AM

  Long time no see SA!!

mexram338September 14, 2019 01:15PM

  Riddle Me This

Classicalwit397September 14, 2019 03:09PM

  Re: Riddle Me This

Classicalwit236September 14, 2019 04:12PM

  Congrats

saints_alive292September 16, 2019 04:31AM

  Brees is tough..

sstrams223September 16, 2019 04:38AM

  SA...

ramsfaninmd251September 16, 2019 04:44AM

  Re: Congrats

SalsaRama283September 16, 2019 04:57AM

  yeah, sorry about that, SaintsAlive...

SunTzu_vs_Camus237September 16, 2019 05:04AM

  Well, one rationale is that if you're an official...

Saguaro272September 16, 2019 06:36AM

  they blow the whistle on that play 9 times out of 10

Atlantic Ram203September 16, 2019 06:49AM

  Exactly right, seen it hundreds of time (not hyperbole).

Saguaro227September 16, 2019 07:07AM

  I think the announcers and sports reporters will never be satisfied....

NewMexicoRam229September 16, 2019 09:23AM

  Re: Well, one rationale is that if you're an official...

RamsFanSinceLA409September 16, 2019 06:52AM

  Re: bad calls happen all the time

Speed_Kills345September 16, 2019 05:05AM

  No Shinola

Atlantic Ram255September 16, 2019 06:30AM

  Re: Congrats.....oh boy here we go again.

Rampage2K-225September 16, 2019 05:29AM

  that was an awful call on 70

Atlantic Ram263September 16, 2019 07:26AM

  Re: Congrats

dzrams194September 16, 2019 07:09AM