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August 22, 2019 10:55AM
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There's no stability in it for players. If I'm DeAndre Hopkins and Watson goes down in the preseason, I could go from an expected 15 million to 8 because the QB is now bad. Not to mention inuries, etc

Then you hand over the power to keep you out of games and reduce costs.

Which has happened.

Contracts in the NFL are not a direct reflection of production. They can't be. Guys get injured, scenarios you describe occur.

Contracts in the NFL are a direct reflection of market value. You are getting paid for what you are worth on the market, and/or what it costs to retain you.

If a player holds out it's because there's a dispute over fair market value. I've seen players be in the wrong over that. I've seen management be at fault over that. Just depends.

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I'd say 2nd and 3rd contracts are a reflection of market value but less so with rookie contracts. Rookie contracts are the exception to your statement.

For example take RBs. Stats show that they are the most productive in the first 5 years of their careers. An Elliot would be worth probably around $12-15M now on the market if he wasn't locked into the CBA mandated rookie contract.

The entire CBS really kind of suck for RBs.
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  Trend of holding out for new deals is A DISGRACE & SHAMEFUL!

spagsbacker800August 22, 2019 03:35AM

  Well teams can cut players before their contracts are up

Ram_Ruler325August 22, 2019 03:43AM

  "Objects" don't earn up to $35 mil per year.

RockRam357August 22, 2019 04:39AM

  Well money is a relative thing

Ram_Ruler227August 22, 2019 04:51AM

  Sure owners look at their employees as "business pieces".

RockRam238August 22, 2019 05:02AM

  I agree with everything you said EXCEPT

Ram_Ruler219August 22, 2019 05:07AM

  Except they didn't negotiate the deal

baraw172August 22, 2019 06:48AM

  Re: Except they didn't negotiate the deal

AlbaNY_Ram275August 22, 2019 12:04PM

  Trades have always struck me as curious

3030187August 22, 2019 05:47AM

  Yeah trades are so confusing legally

Ram_Ruler266August 22, 2019 06:14AM

  Re: It's in the contract (CBA)

dzrams166August 22, 2019 10:04AM

  Re: Such a good point...

dzrams219August 22, 2019 08:36AM

  Re: Trend of holding out for new deals is A DISGRACE & SHAMEFUL!

tonyde258August 22, 2019 03:48AM

  The owners are not in breach when they cut players

stlramz236August 22, 2019 06:40AM

  Re: Trend of holding out for new deals is A DISGRACE & SHAMEFUL!

Classicalwit255August 22, 2019 04:27AM

  It's not a bad idea but

Ram_Ruler223August 22, 2019 04:57AM

  plus

zn233August 22, 2019 06:28AM

  I agree.

Ram_Ruler386August 22, 2019 08:23AM

  Re: Except...

dzrams179August 22, 2019 10:55AM

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zn209August 22, 2019 11:33AM

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cool_hand_luke237August 22, 2019 09:58PM

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zn214August 22, 2019 10:07PM

  Re: Except...

cool_hand_luke188August 22, 2019 10:37PM

  Re: The NFL already does something like that

AlbaNY_Ram233August 23, 2019 03:14AM

  Wow. Thanks for point that out. /nm

cool_hand_luke232August 23, 2019 03:49AM

  It would be difficult to operate on a hard cap on that basis.

RockRam182August 22, 2019 05:05AM

  Re: Trend of holding out for new deals is A DISGRACE & SHAMEFUL!

cool_hand_luke204August 22, 2019 05:34AM

  Trend? This has gone on forever...

DaJudge332August 22, 2019 06:20AM

  and even before that

zn214August 22, 2019 06:32AM

  Re: and even before that

stlramz231August 22, 2019 10:43AM

  Re: and even before that

21Dog204August 22, 2019 12:49PM

  Re: and even before that

sacram203August 22, 2019 01:06PM

  But ED was not a holdout

waterfield279August 22, 2019 08:54PM

  Re: But ED was not a holdout

stlramz245August 22, 2019 10:00PM

  Re: But ED was not a holdout

21Dog306August 23, 2019 05:15AM

  Re: But ED was not a holdout

stlramz249August 23, 2019 05:32AM

  Re: Trend of holding out for new deals is A DISGRACE & SHAMEFUL!

six2stack300August 22, 2019 09:00AM

  under the new CBA

zn234August 22, 2019 11:52AM