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Re: I did, it was a bad idea

January 04, 2019 10:08PM
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How many years have we had these easily replaced RTs? I seem to remember it as a pretty major liability going back to the GSOT days.

Money for a young cog on this Oline is a good investment.

That came up below. Martz was bad at drafting. He inherited 2 (Miller and Tucker) and then lost both and the best he could do was Barron. In fact I would deepen the whole indictment of Martz's personnel acquisition skills by saying, you want to know how bad Martz was at that? He couldn't even find a right tackle. cool smiley Meanwhile since Barron and Smith the Rams have had 3--Richardson (who had the best year in his career as a Ram), and Barksdale (who played pretty well till he left), and then Hav who replaced Barksdale when Barksdale held out. Anyway, as I said before, if you think this bunch is as bad at the draft as Martz was, then, yeah Hav is irreplaceable.

Teams don't build their OLs around the ROT for a reason. Plus, in my view, spending money for the more easily replaced right tackle position means you don't have the money somewhere else for a less easily replaced position (like a top guard, center, or left tackle). And anyway, going forward, it would help Goff if they had another tackle who was good at pass pro (not Hav's strength).

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You keep saying that Hav is not good at passpro, zn. Yet, every time I watch him he seems to be doing it very well.

Here’s a quote from the Da Silva piece above...

Havenstein played every single snap on offense and was fantastic in both pass protection and run blocking. The extension the Rams gave him this offseason looks like a brilliant move.

So, I’m not the only one that likes Hav’s pass blocking. Just saying...
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  PFF’s 5 highest graded Rams of 2018 season...

Rams43872January 03, 2019 06:24AM

  Re: PFF’s 5 highest graded Rams of 2018 season...

CraigMatson252January 03, 2019 09:13AM

  anyone think extending Havenstein was bad idea?

max378January 03, 2019 11:23AM

  I loved the extension

stlramz179January 03, 2019 11:40AM

  Actually I don't recall any real issues...

jemach189January 03, 2019 04:51PM

  I did, it was a bad idea

zn202January 03, 2019 06:30PM

  Re: Maybe it wasn't so bad...

dzrams224January 03, 2019 07:05PM

  Re: Maybe it wasn't so bad...

zn206January 03, 2019 07:19PM

  In part...

jemach277January 04, 2019 12:47PM

  Re: I did, it was a bad idea

Old Goat141January 04, 2019 04:36PM

  Re: I did, it was a bad idea

zn258January 04, 2019 06:11PM

  Re: I did, it was a bad idea

Rams43116January 04, 2019 10:08PM

  Hav has 8th best win rate in pass pro for an OT

AlbaNY_Ram132January 05, 2019 12:13AM

  Tangent but here are rankings for other rams OL

The Professor119January 05, 2019 10:54AM

  a modest deal, made sense

LMU93142January 04, 2019 03:45AM

  Re: a modest deal, made sense

Rams43127January 04, 2019 07:09AM

  Re: a modest deal, made sense

zn153January 04, 2019 07:15AM

  Re: a modest deal, made sense

Rams43132January 04, 2019 07:51AM

  Re: a modest deal, made sense

LMU93125January 04, 2019 08:18AM

  Re: a modest deal, made sense

zn294January 04, 2019 08:22AM

  So what is the second

PHDram133January 05, 2019 08:51PM

  ROTs are expendable no matter who they

ferragamo79127January 04, 2019 11:55AM

  sure cause he had a couple

zn125January 04, 2019 12:51PM

  ended in 2001

ferragamo79116January 04, 2019 01:00PM

  Re: anyone think extending Havenstein was bad idea?

Coy Bacon137January 04, 2019 11:52AM

  This signing seems very controversial

David Deacon291January 05, 2019 01:53AM

  Re: This signing seems very controversial

LMU93132January 05, 2019 04:09AM

  according to vinnyb.

max178January 05, 2019 04:40AM

  Re: according to vinnyb.

LMU93144January 05, 2019 07:40AM

  Re: according to vinnyb.

Rams43354January 05, 2019 09:20AM

  Re: according to vinnyb.

max301January 05, 2019 09:45AM

  This makes a lot of sense to me...

jemach118January 05, 2019 12:39PM

  Re: It's too soon to say on Peters....

dzrams130January 05, 2019 03:28PM

  Sully

hubestar172January 06, 2019 01:14AM

  Re: Sully

zn113January 06, 2019 03:44AM