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Why aren't we more thrilled ...

October 29, 2018 06:24AM
About Jared Goff?

Over at Turf Show Times, they have a grade by position feature (link). They give Jared a B. Here's what they say:

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Turf Show Times
If you didn’t watch the game, Los Angeles Rams QB Jared Goff’s stats would appear to warrant a higher grade, as he finished a solid 19-for-35 for 295 yards and 3 TDs with zero turnovers. Hurried, harassed and hammered all day long, you’ve got to give Goff points for resilience on a day when his accuracy and footwork occasionally failed him. Eventually, Goff settled down and got into a rhythm, leading the Rams to two critical 3rd quarter TD drives. After absorbing five sacks and countless hits, expect him to spend a little more time in the tub than usual this week. Ultimately, all that matters is the W, and while he didn’t carry us on this day, Goff’s play didn’t cost us the win, either.

Now, I don't want to just hammer them. I haven't really seen much bragging on Jared around here, either. Someone somewhere--I think in a post here--mentioned a single pass Jared missed.

You know, Jared Goff gets less credit for sterling play than any QB I can think of. The T S T blurb above allows as how Jared may not have "carried us" but should be given some credit for not losing it. Generous of them.

They also note he got sacked 5 times: "Hurried, harassed and hammered all day long, you’ve got to give Goff points for resilience." In the same blurb, they note the fact that conceded "zero turnovers." And, they cite a stat line of 19/35, 295, and 3.

OK, to me, a QB who is "hurried, harassed and hammered all day long" and puts up those stats has had a pretty damn good game. Maybe a B+? Maybe, just maybe, an A?

The problem, apparently, is that "his accuracy and footwork occasionally failed him." Well, sorry. I don't see that. I saw him under duress throwing balls to closely covered receivers and missing those tight windows by inches most of the time. And I saw a guy who actually made the plays.

Again, I have no big quarrel with T S T and they are far from alone. Ratings are subjective. And I guess that is my point. There is something about Goff that blunts people's subjective responses to him. I think observers--Rams Nation and neutrals--collectively shrug about his game yesterday. (Maybe I'm wrong.) But consider this:

Jared Goff beat Aaron Rogers yesterday in virtually every statistic:

  • Passes: 19/35 v 18/30 (1 more completion; slightly lower percentage)
  • TDs: 3 v 1
  • QBR: 111 v 102.9
  • Sacks: 5 v 3 (more sacks--a higher degree of difficulty!)
  • Result: W v L

Granted. The gaps are not large, although the TD numbers stand out, especially considering the difference in sacks and pressure.
And, yeah, I get it. This is Aaron Rogers. He is a Hall lock and Goff has a long way to go. No, I am NOT trying to claim that Jared is in Aaron's league ... yet.

But the point is that Goff slightly outplayed Rogers, but everyone focuses on A R torching our defense and how lucky we are to have not faced him down the stretch. And the reaction to Goff's fine performance is very muted. Somehow, he always seems to be seen as having something to prove.

A big part of it, surely, is people's preference for impressive, long passes. When he was hitting downfield earlier in the year, people started to celebrate him. By contrast, yesterday, his completions were medium length. And when he came back, it was with a quiet FG drive. His plays didn't stand out.

But let's also notice that the goal posts are moving. A while back, people wanted to see him A] do well under pressure and B] come from behind. Well, yesterday he did both. I think we ought to take notice.

Look. I can't say that Jared Goff is the best QB in the league. There are a lot of brilliant ones right now. But, you know, people get excited about those other QBs and their fans do thunder their claims to glory.

Meanwhile, Jared rolls along virtually under the radar, playing really, really well and winning games, beating Hall QBs along the way.

I like the guy.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/29/2018 06:27AM by RFL.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Why aren't we more thrilled ...

RFL1470October 29, 2018 06:24AM

  funny thing is he outplayed Rodgers....and no one wants to admit it

Rampage2K-388October 29, 2018 06:33AM

  It just blows my mind

Ram49381October 29, 2018 10:19AM

  Re: It just blows my mind

Rampage2K-464October 29, 2018 10:23AM

  Re: Why aren't we more thrilled ...

napoli941October 29, 2018 06:35AM

  Re: Why aren't we more thrilled ...

RFL460October 29, 2018 06:42AM

  Re: Why aren't we more thrilled ... I am thrilled with him

embraceable_ewe83867October 29, 2018 06:42AM

  Hmmm ...

RFL361October 29, 2018 06:43AM

  Re: Hmmm ...

embraceable_ewe83292October 29, 2018 06:46AM

  She's got multiple #16 jerseys that she color-coordinates with her outfit .nm

ArizonaRamFan320October 30, 2018 12:29PM

  Re: Confirmed! lol nm

embraceable_ewe83245October 30, 2018 02:27PM

  Re: Why aren't we more thrilled ...

Rams43294October 29, 2018 06:45AM

  Re: Turf Show times nailed it

Speed_Kills347October 29, 2018 06:47AM

  Yep.

RFL314October 29, 2018 06:55AM

  Re: Yep.

Rampage2K-269October 29, 2018 07:05AM

  Re: yes I do

Speed_Kills266October 29, 2018 07:15AM

  Re: yes I do

Rampage2K-249October 29, 2018 07:43AM

  LOL! You keep making my point!

RFL249October 29, 2018 07:46AM

  Re: LOL! You keep making my point!

Rampage2K-366October 29, 2018 07:55AM

  Hey ... I like your stress on what YOU actually saw.

RFL245October 29, 2018 08:00AM

  Re: Hey ... I like your stress on what YOU actually saw.

Rampage2K-269October 29, 2018 08:05AM

  Re: its not a matter of admitting anything 2K

Speed_Kills253October 29, 2018 08:10AM

  Re: its not a matter of admitting anything 2K

Rampage2K-251October 29, 2018 08:33AM

  Re: its not a matter of admitting anything 2K

AlbaNY_Ram226October 29, 2018 08:43AM

  Re: LOL! You keep making my point!

Speed_Kills269October 29, 2018 08:07AM

  We're cool.

RFL285October 29, 2018 08:15AM

  Re: good exchange... thx nm

Speed_Kills201October 29, 2018 08:24AM

  Thank you for defining "rattled".

Saguaro222October 29, 2018 08:30AM

  I don't buy that

zn288October 29, 2018 09:56AM

  Re: damn that's a really good post right there nm

Speed_Kills218October 29, 2018 10:01AM

  Could you please point to the part...

Saguaro224October 29, 2018 10:19AM

  Re: Well I do agree

Speed_Kills172October 29, 2018 10:28AM

  Re: Could you please point to the part...

zn224October 29, 2018 10:47AM

  Re: I don't buy that

Rams43210October 29, 2018 11:10AM

  Re: I don't buy that

zn184October 29, 2018 11:18AM

  Re: I don't buy that

Rams43218October 29, 2018 11:32AM

  Re: I don't buy that

zn332October 29, 2018 12:06PM

  Because of the Vikings Game

Old Goat390October 29, 2018 04:30PM

  I find it amusing...

jemach318October 29, 2018 11:09AM

  Re: I find it amusing...

Rampage2K-294October 29, 2018 11:22AM

  I never said that and honestly...

jemach678October 29, 2018 11:31AM

  Re: I never said that and honestly...

moklerman243October 29, 2018 12:18PM

  Re: Were you surprised he didn’t try and score a TD?

Speed_Kills215October 29, 2018 03:37PM

  Has Rodgers earned the 4th qtr comeback repuation?

SUretHing211October 29, 2018 03:45PM

  Re: Has Rodgers earned the 4th qtr comeback repuation?

Rams43207October 29, 2018 03:51PM

  Had a chance to put game away with 6:39 left in game....

Rampage2K-205October 29, 2018 04:04PM

  Re: I never said that and honestly...

Rampage2K-209October 29, 2018 03:46PM

  Re: Turf Show times nailed it

AlbaNY_Ram283October 29, 2018 07:05AM

  Yeah, and just to pummel the expired equine one more time ...

RFL249October 29, 2018 07:09AM

  Re: Turf Show times nailed it

zn218October 29, 2018 05:49PM

  Re: Turf Show times nailed it

AlbaNY_Ram255October 30, 2018 03:42AM

  Agreed

moklerman240October 29, 2018 10:58AM

  I agree...

jemach323October 29, 2018 11:00AM

  Re: Why aren't we more thrilled ...

AlbaNY_Ram296October 29, 2018 06:57AM

  Interesting point

RFL240October 29, 2018 07:03AM

  Re: Interesting point

NJRam715263October 29, 2018 11:49AM

  he hasn't done enough yet IF your issue is national acclaim

zn286October 29, 2018 08:19AM

  Re: he hasn't done enough yet IF your issue is national acclaim

Rams43282October 29, 2018 08:57AM

  Rodgers missed throws also

SUretHing306October 29, 2018 07:13AM

  Loved watching Rodgers out and whine after Gurley sealed the game

chunkmeister276October 29, 2018 07:32AM

  Rodgers missed throws also--a point to remember

RFL261October 29, 2018 07:51AM

  Re: Rodgers missed throws also--a point to remember

SUretHing276October 29, 2018 08:22AM

  and so

zn342October 29, 2018 08:38AM

  Re: and so

SUretHing228October 29, 2018 09:12AM

  Re: and so

zn294October 29, 2018 09:47AM

  Re: and so

SUretHing285October 29, 2018 09:49AM

  Re: and so

zn230October 29, 2018 10:00AM

  Re: and so

SUretHing370October 29, 2018 10:06AM

  agreed

zn292October 29, 2018 10:13AM

  Re: agreed

SUretHing229October 29, 2018 10:23AM

  Re: agreed

zn210October 29, 2018 10:29AM

  Re: and so

JYB341October 30, 2018 04:47AM

  Goff's getting a good sense of when to put the pedal to the medal

chunkmeister250October 29, 2018 07:29AM

  Re: Goff's getting a good sense of when to put the pedal to the medal

zn280October 29, 2018 11:27AM

  Re: Goff's getting a good sense of when to put the pedal to the medal

max201October 30, 2018 04:13AM

  Re: Why aren't we more thrilled ...

MamaRAMa288October 29, 2018 07:32AM

  I'll take it nm

Speed_Kills341October 29, 2018 07:39AM

  nice stat mama

ferragamo79270October 29, 2018 07:40AM

  I had bigger issues with McVay more than Goff...

jemach262October 29, 2018 11:21AM

  You fail to give proper credit to Green Bay.

RockRam288October 29, 2018 11:35AM

  Re: You fail to give proper credit to Green Bay. Ditto Rock

Anonymous User306October 29, 2018 04:49PM

  Ok...

jemach182October 30, 2018 08:10AM

  That doesn't change my point one iota...

jemach247October 30, 2018 08:06AM

  Re: Why aren't we more thrilled ...

moklerman273October 29, 2018 11:27AM

  I agree with their assessment on Goff yesterday

six2stack259October 29, 2018 05:00PM

  Re: I agree with their assessment on Goff yesterday

zn246October 29, 2018 06:21PM

  Mahomes

wv ram253October 30, 2018 03:54AM

  I kind of wanted Goff..

sstrams249October 30, 2018 04:02AM

  Re: Why aren't we more thrilled ...

Ken232October 30, 2018 07:48AM

  Well said

LBRamsFan306October 30, 2018 08:49AM