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Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

August 02, 2018 06:44AM
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KD said they want to be able to keep the young guys together. He specifically said, Goff, the OL, and the DBs. Clearly indicating that whatever Donald is asking for would preclude the Rams from doing what they want to do to keep those young guys, obviously Goff, but also guys like Hav and Peters.

It was interesting to hear KD say he discusses the contracts/money issues with Kroenke, and that Pastoors is the guy who deals day to day with the agents. Snead corroborated the contract/money management as being dealt with almost excessively by Demoff and Pastoors. Snead said he's not a math guy.

So the way I see it is that Demoff and Pastoors work the numbers and run the important stuff by Kroenke, whom I presume wants Donald signed as much as anyone. So whatever Donald is asking for it doesn't fit with the Rams long term plans.

With a cap in 2021 of around 220 M, they can keep Goff, Donald, Gurley, Cooks, Peters, and anywhere from 3-4 more depending on who it is.

So, that to me just sounded like this empty "negotiating in the press" statement.

Either that or they genuinely do not get AD's value to the team.

And given what we actually know, rather than make your key assumption in this statement, it;s equally possible to make the exact opposite assumption.

You say, So whatever Donald is asking for it doesn't fit with the Rams long term plans

Well why isn't that So whatever they're offering Donald isn't enough but they don't appreciate his value

For all we know either statement could be the true one. Is Donald asking too much? Is the Rams offer too low? Is it both? Is it neither?

I don't assume I know right now which it is.

But for the record back in 2002 I said it was simply not true the Rams couldn't afford London Fletcher, and that turned out to be right. I hope the way this plays out, this doesn't end up reminding me of that. And as valuable as Fletcher was to the Rams, Donald far surpasses that even.

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I don't have enough knowledge and insight into what the Rams total financial plans are. Apparently you believe it isn't that complicated to see that they can pay Donald $25M/yr and still sign all the guy they want. Fine. I'm sorry it isn't that simple for me to see.

I just don't know what the Donald number is that puts the Rams in a bad financial situation. Is it 23M, 24M, or 25M. I just don't know.



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  Breer on Donald contract from RE show

Rampage2K-1314August 01, 2018 01:00PM

  Summary

Atlantic Ram503August 01, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: Summary

Rampage2K-369August 01, 2018 02:17PM

  I agree

Atlantic Ram303August 01, 2018 02:26PM

  Re: I agree

zn267August 01, 2018 02:30PM

  Re: I agree

Atlantic Ram209August 01, 2018 02:57PM

  a more extensive summary

zn359August 01, 2018 02:28PM

  Thanks for the correction

Atlantic Ram211August 01, 2018 02:48PM

  Re: Thanks for the correction

zn279August 01, 2018 03:01PM

  Re: a more extensive summary

BarryRams245August 01, 2018 03:09PM

  Re: a more extensive summary

zn198August 01, 2018 03:19PM

  have to revise one bit

zn207August 01, 2018 03:38PM

  here;s the link to the Demoff broadcast

zn223August 01, 2018 04:55PM

  maybe less years/less money now but AD gets new contract at age 30.....

SunTzu_vs_Camus356August 02, 2018 03:20AM

  we have no idea what the issues are

zn198August 02, 2018 04:22AM

  Demoff did say something pertinent....

max381August 02, 2018 06:21AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

zn195August 02, 2018 06:34AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

max217August 02, 2018 06:44AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

bigjimram21191August 02, 2018 07:37AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

zn210August 02, 2018 07:47AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

bigjimram21141August 03, 2018 06:19AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

dzrams158August 03, 2018 07:55AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

Rams43200August 03, 2018 08:47AM

  Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention...

Rams43151August 03, 2018 09:52AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

Rampage2K-142August 03, 2018 10:02AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

dzrams138August 03, 2018 10:58AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

Rams43137August 03, 2018 11:40AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

zn276August 03, 2018 02:38PM

  It doesnt fit right now

Speed_Kills167August 02, 2018 07:51AM

  I agree

Atlantic Ram145August 03, 2018 12:03PM

  Re: maybe less years/less money now but AD gets new contract at age 30.....

Rams43210August 02, 2018 06:07AM

  Re: maybe less years/less money now but AD gets new contract at age 30.....

bigjimram21186August 02, 2018 07:42AM

  Re: maybe less years/less money now but AD gets new contract at age 30.....

oldschoolramfan136August 03, 2018 06:17AM

  wouldnt make sense...Rams already have him locked up for 3 years

Rampage2K-203August 02, 2018 08:20AM

  Most of the media can't help "sticking it to the man."

max267August 02, 2018 08:28AM

  Re: Most of the media can't help "sticking it to the man."

Rampage2K-154August 02, 2018 08:47AM

  Re: Most of the media can't help "sticking it to the man."

zn159August 03, 2018 05:25AM

  agreed...that's why it'd be good faith for the Rams to offer ...

SunTzu_vs_Camus155August 03, 2018 05:34AM

  Re: agreed...that's why it'd be good faith for the Rams to offer ...

zn142August 03, 2018 05:54AM

  Re: agreed...that's why it'd be good faith for the Rams to offer ...

bigjimram21185August 03, 2018 06:27AM

  well, this is kinda my thinking... help me here....

SunTzu_vs_Camus141August 03, 2018 09:10AM

  why would Rams do that

ferragamo79149August 03, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: well, this is kinda my thinking... help me here....

oswald12154August 03, 2018 10:17AM

  oops!

SunTzu_vs_Camus149August 03, 2018 11:02AM

  Re: well, this is kinda my thinking... help me here....

zn255August 03, 2018 04:09PM

  Hammer less useful without the nail

Atlantic Ram165August 03, 2018 06:11AM

  Re: Hammer less useful without the nail

Rampage2K-221August 03, 2018 09:43AM

  Re: We don't know this...

dzrams247August 03, 2018 09:57AM

  Re: Hammer less useful without the nail

Atlantic Ram149August 03, 2018 10:58AM

  Re: Hammer less useful without the nail

Rampage2K-149August 03, 2018 12:07PM

  Not so sure about his need of money......

roman18176August 03, 2018 12:07PM