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a more extensive summary

August 01, 2018 02:28PM
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Atlantic Ram
Breer says there is a reason Suh, Peters and Talib were available... not good on the locker room.

Said Rams and Donald were far apart. Used 80% of Matt Ryan’s salary for a Mack or Donald figure... which is $24 million a year. Said that would reset the market to what it was for top defensive players. Mentioned that Miller won a championship (mvp? Can’t remember) and neither Donald or Mack have. Says he expects Rams and Donald to agree before Mack and Raiders. Credited Demoff and company for being creative with their contracts. Said he would expect Donald to sign and play in game 1 of the season.

Also said that Donald is a leader in he locker room and if things went sideways then he would be a positive leader.

Summaries are not easy. So good job, and I want to offer a bigger one that includes more. Where I mark yours with a red bit, I sort of disagree with your take on it and offer a small correction...I think a more complete summary is needed there.

You're right about Breer on Donald as a leader. To expand, his lead in to Donald was to focus on how there were a lot of big personalities in that locker room. Who leads if there's adversity? One reason Miami let Suh go was because he wasn't that guy. That puts a lot on McVay. But you have to have strong guys in the locker room. So Breer goes, who is that guy for the Rams? And to him it's Donald.

On contracts. There's 3 years of inflation at every position (that's true) except the top defender market is represent by a 3 year old contract (Von Miller). The market correction is looked for because top defender numbers slipped from 86% in 2016 to 63% now (while EVERYONE ELSE went up since Von Miller signed). Plus of course Gurley's deal represents a market correction so why not Donald. If you make it 80% now for the top defender (this applies to Mack and Donald) that would be 24 M.

Red bit---it's EISEN who poses the question, why wouldn't the Rams say go win a superbowl like Von Miller did? Breer doesn't make that argument, he argues against it. (Actually I don't think Eisen was making a case, he was posing a good question as an interviewer). Breer then goes, you could turn around to Les Snead if he says that and say you gave Todd Gurley a market correction.

Adding something here--they then go off on the August 7th thing. If Donald becomes an RFA, then, the Rams have less control over it and someone's going to give up a 1st round pick for Donald under those circumstances.

Agreed, he says in both cases the sides are far apart and they're having trouble finding a middle ground (me: but then different people are saying different things about this so I don't know where Breer's info comes from, he could be as right or wrong as anyone else on that at this point).

And yes he also said that you don''t want to mess up team morale and locker room dynamics by not coming through with guys like Donald. Breer says it can mess with your chemistry if there's that guy out there and you;re not taking care of him. That can screw up the message a little bit (me: I've been saying that all along.)

Says Breer, a market correction (for both Mack and AD) is a fair point. The team could say, we're not responsible for the market (me: naw they follow the market in every other case, corrected it with Gurley, and will follow it with Goff).

Yes, Breer predicts that of the 2, Donald is more likely to be there when games start. He also thinks that the Rams front office is creative enough with deals to get this done.





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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/01/2018 02:45PM by zn.
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  Breer on Donald contract from RE show

Rampage2K-1315August 01, 2018 01:00PM

  Summary

Atlantic Ram505August 01, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: Summary

Rampage2K-370August 01, 2018 02:17PM

  I agree

Atlantic Ram304August 01, 2018 02:26PM

  Re: I agree

zn268August 01, 2018 02:30PM

  Re: I agree

Atlantic Ram210August 01, 2018 02:57PM

  a more extensive summary

zn359August 01, 2018 02:28PM

  Thanks for the correction

Atlantic Ram211August 01, 2018 02:48PM

  Re: Thanks for the correction

zn279August 01, 2018 03:01PM

  Re: a more extensive summary

BarryRams245August 01, 2018 03:09PM

  Re: a more extensive summary

zn200August 01, 2018 03:19PM

  have to revise one bit

zn208August 01, 2018 03:38PM

  here;s the link to the Demoff broadcast

zn225August 01, 2018 04:55PM

  maybe less years/less money now but AD gets new contract at age 30.....

SunTzu_vs_Camus356August 02, 2018 03:20AM

  we have no idea what the issues are

zn199August 02, 2018 04:22AM

  Demoff did say something pertinent....

max383August 02, 2018 06:21AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

zn197August 02, 2018 06:34AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

max218August 02, 2018 06:44AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

bigjimram21192August 02, 2018 07:37AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

zn211August 02, 2018 07:47AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

bigjimram21143August 03, 2018 06:19AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

dzrams159August 03, 2018 07:55AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

Rams43200August 03, 2018 08:47AM

  Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention...

Rams43152August 03, 2018 09:52AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

Rampage2K-143August 03, 2018 10:02AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

dzrams140August 03, 2018 10:58AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

Rams43138August 03, 2018 11:40AM

  Re: Demoff did say something pertinent....

zn277August 03, 2018 02:38PM

  It doesnt fit right now

Speed_Kills167August 02, 2018 07:51AM

  I agree

Atlantic Ram147August 03, 2018 12:03PM

  Re: maybe less years/less money now but AD gets new contract at age 30.....

Rams43211August 02, 2018 06:07AM

  Re: maybe less years/less money now but AD gets new contract at age 30.....

bigjimram21187August 02, 2018 07:42AM

  Re: maybe less years/less money now but AD gets new contract at age 30.....

oldschoolramfan137August 03, 2018 06:17AM

  wouldnt make sense...Rams already have him locked up for 3 years

Rampage2K-204August 02, 2018 08:20AM

  Most of the media can't help "sticking it to the man."

max268August 02, 2018 08:28AM

  Re: Most of the media can't help "sticking it to the man."

Rampage2K-156August 02, 2018 08:47AM

  Re: Most of the media can't help "sticking it to the man."

zn161August 03, 2018 05:25AM

  agreed...that's why it'd be good faith for the Rams to offer ...

SunTzu_vs_Camus156August 03, 2018 05:34AM

  Re: agreed...that's why it'd be good faith for the Rams to offer ...

zn144August 03, 2018 05:54AM

  Re: agreed...that's why it'd be good faith for the Rams to offer ...

bigjimram21186August 03, 2018 06:27AM

  well, this is kinda my thinking... help me here....

SunTzu_vs_Camus141August 03, 2018 09:10AM

  why would Rams do that

ferragamo79150August 03, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: well, this is kinda my thinking... help me here....

oswald12154August 03, 2018 10:17AM

  oops!

SunTzu_vs_Camus149August 03, 2018 11:02AM

  Re: well, this is kinda my thinking... help me here....

zn256August 03, 2018 04:09PM

  Hammer less useful without the nail

Atlantic Ram166August 03, 2018 06:11AM

  Re: Hammer less useful without the nail

Rampage2K-222August 03, 2018 09:43AM

  Re: We don't know this...

dzrams249August 03, 2018 09:57AM

  Re: Hammer less useful without the nail

Atlantic Ram151August 03, 2018 10:58AM

  Re: Hammer less useful without the nail

Rampage2K-150August 03, 2018 12:07PM

  Not so sure about his need of money......

roman18178August 03, 2018 12:07PM