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I always add this qualification

July 30, 2018 10:08AM
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I also may be in the minority that the key to the Rams' winning is not AD. He is a great player; but he doesn't win games single handed. There are a number of players on the Rams more important that he is beginning with Goff. Sure a right minded and committed AD makes the defense better. I'm very doubtful that either of those conditions exist any longer in him.

In the short term, it's possible there are players more important to winning than AD. Goff of course, Gurley, and maaaayybe Cooks. Due to Suh, the typical impact of Donald is lessoned IMO because you have a darn good replacement player if Donald holds out.

My current feeling is: the Rams will win the SB with Donald; they have a good chance to win without him.

But over the long term, this won't be the case. I expect Suh to move on to richer pastures. Once he's gone, I see Donald's impact as being about equal to Gurleys.

Pressuring the QB is the highest premium skill set in the game after QB'ing and the man has been uncommonly great at it. I think stats show that he was singlehandedly responsible for nearly 40% of the team's pressures.

People often compare the impact of DTs to other positions. Not always, I think, in completely fair ways. But setting that aside...

AD is not just a DT. He's an ELITE DT, and that's a very rare breed.

That is the one type (an elite DT) guaranteed to improve any defense he's on. So it's someone you build around. He can't do it alone but then neither could Marino or Fouts.

Either way there's not a whole lot of comparisons to draw on for this conversation because elite DTs are so rare.

But use a time machine and add AD to either the 99 or the 2001 defense. Is the impact minimal?

Use your time machine again and add AD to the fearsome foursome. No impact?

Or a horror film version. Go back in time and put AD on the Walsh 49ers. Would we Rams fans just shrug at that?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/30/2018 10:09AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Donald's holdout is pure greed and not altruism.

RockRam766July 30, 2018 03:22AM

  Agree - strongly - greed and ego - NM

YOUNGBLOOD85366July 30, 2018 03:43AM

  have to disagree

zn332July 30, 2018 04:07AM

  Understand. Ethics simply aren't in your wheelhouse for sports contracts.

RockRam295July 30, 2018 06:01AM

  that is simply not true

zn293July 30, 2018 06:09AM

  Re: that is simply not true

BarryRams295July 30, 2018 07:15AM

  So can owners revoke contract for underachievers?

ferragamo79450July 30, 2018 07:40AM

  no one in this situation is demanding a new contract though

zn244July 30, 2018 08:11AM

  Re: Not necessary...

dzrams228July 30, 2018 08:16AM

  keep in mind it works both ways

ferragamo79210July 30, 2018 09:25AM

  Re: keep in mind it works both ways

dzrams179July 30, 2018 09:44AM

  we are talking 1st rounders here

ferragamo79194July 30, 2018 12:16PM

  with this caveat

zn229July 30, 2018 08:04AM

  +1 + more

Ramadune242July 30, 2018 07:50AM

  So if you were Donald you would just play out the contract

Atlantic Ram239July 30, 2018 10:24AM

  Re: EGO & Is AD as valuable as a QB (LOL)

Steve168July 30, 2018 10:41AM

  what is "qb money"?

zn308July 30, 2018 01:55PM

  Re: Are value and impact synonymous?

dzrams193July 30, 2018 02:21PM

  Re: and dont forget...

spagsbacker402July 30, 2018 04:19AM

  Have to agree

Ramsdude251July 30, 2018 05:11AM

  I see it the same way.

GlacieRam510July 30, 2018 05:57AM

  Nah, the issue is the CAP

max229July 30, 2018 06:17AM

  Re: If there was no cap then

Speed_Kills262July 30, 2018 06:55AM

  +1

Ramadune225July 30, 2018 06:58AM

  Re: If there was no cap then

VANRAM239July 30, 2018 07:01AM

  Re: Yes, ALL NFL TEAMS have the same $$$$$.

oldschoolramfan466July 30, 2018 07:07AM

  No thanks.

DaJudge215July 30, 2018 07:02AM

  Good idea.

CeeZar214July 30, 2018 07:12AM

  REALLY REALLY Good idea!

Ramadune351July 30, 2018 01:04PM

  I agree with RamUK

CeeZar259July 30, 2018 06:47AM

  Re: I agree with RamUK

jim beam207July 30, 2018 07:55AM

  Re: I agree with RamUK

Ramboni199July 30, 2018 12:19PM

  Re: I agree and I don't blame him

Coy Bacon198July 30, 2018 07:20AM

  I agree more with ZN

Dram219July 30, 2018 07:34AM

  Re: Donald's holdout is pure greed and not altruism.

cool_hand_luke202July 30, 2018 07:50AM

  wish my boss shared the wealth with me

ferragamo79204July 30, 2018 09:26AM

  Re: wish my boss shared the wealth with me

zn217July 30, 2018 09:32AM

  Re: In the real world...

dzrams168July 30, 2018 09:48AM

  but I am making comparisons

ferragamo79244July 30, 2018 10:25AM

  Re: If we're gonna talk about ridiculous...

dzrams235July 30, 2018 11:08AM

  yet Donald was making 1.8 million last year

ferragamo79249July 30, 2018 12:45PM

  Re: On the importance of AD....

dzrams205July 30, 2018 08:47AM

  I always add this qualification

zn221July 30, 2018 10:08AM

  Re: Donald's holdout is pure greed by a notorious agent

Rampage2K-230July 30, 2018 09:29AM

  Typical...

jemach232July 30, 2018 09:38AM

  How are you coming up with this?

Atlantic Ram221July 30, 2018 09:59AM

  GLUTTONY GLUTTONY!!!! And the sad thing is.....

Ramgator263July 30, 2018 10:02AM

  I tend to think his holdout is misguided not greedy

David Deacon188July 30, 2018 03:05PM

  Oh, AD will show up...

Rams43219July 30, 2018 03:13PM

  Re: Oh, AD will show up...

oldschoolramfan200July 30, 2018 04:00PM

  anyway

zn280July 30, 2018 07:18PM

  Re: anyway

k3222July 31, 2018 02:47PM

  Re: anyway

bigjimram21165August 01, 2018 03:14PM

  Re: Donald's holdout is pure greed and not altruism.

The Professor180July 31, 2018 12:49PM