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Re: I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

June 27, 2018 10:16AM
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I agree 100%. And in this scenario the Rams have at least 2 options:

1.) Let Mack sign first.
2.) Sign Donald to such a huge contract that the Raiders balk at exceeding it.

If I were the Rams I'd go with number 1. And if that is what they're doing then everything that's currently going on between the Rams and AD makes perfect sense (to me, anyway).

I'd propose a 3rd option:

Offer Donald a opt-out clause after year 2 or 3. Of course the total package would be lower, but it would offer both sides flexibility. If Mack signs a deal exceeding Donald's (possible), then this would keep Donald hungry for an even better deal. No, I'm sure the organization wouldn't want to do this all over again in 2 or 3 years, but when you see what's going on with Julio and Aaron Rogers, there's nothing to prevent it from happening anyway.

Why in the world would the Rams agree to such a thing, BRO?

Why throw away all their leverage AND pay AD millions more than necessary, only to be faced with losing him in the same 3 years of elapsed time that would transpire via the 2 tags? That would be insane.


Well then why would the organization (or any organization for that matter) entertain negotiations for elite players before they absolutely, positively had to?

The fact of the matter is...by entertaining negotiations when they didn't have to, the Rams have signaled that they don't want to get to the point of alienating a player/fan base (or at least a percentage of it) by tagging said player. Like I said in this same thread, antagonize an elite player and you're likely to get: 1) a drop-off in production; and/or, 2) a public demand for a trade. Neither of which the organization is interested in.

So you can keep theorizing about tagging Donald for 2 years - I just don't believe that it's as black & white of a situation as you.

So now, both sides are negotiating. According to Demoff's own words, the organization is merely looking to pay Donald commensurate with other highly-paid defenders. Donald's camp is rumored to be concerned about not being paid as the highest defender in the league.

Assuming the above, I could envision offering Donald an opt-out clause after 2 or 3 years in an effort to protect his status as highest-paid defender. Sounds great for him, but there are (of course) issues for him to follow this road:

1) though his yearly salary might be highest, his total compensation package would be smaller based upon the opt-out clause;
2) another player contract would have to eclipse his. If not...Oops!
3) his availability and performance would have to warrant any new deal offered to him by the Rams or any other team.

For the Rams, they get the flexibility of locking in the player to a lucrative (though smaller) contract that they can then use to settle other player contracts. If (God forbid) Donald were to get hurt and not regain his elite performance, then they've a built-in escape hatch where they don't get burned long-term
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  Demoff: Talks with Aaron Donald have been 'great'

RamBill939June 26, 2018 06:55PM

  I like this line:

stlramz400June 26, 2018 09:07PM

  Re: I like this line:

zn301June 26, 2018 09:36PM

  Re: I like this line:

max377June 26, 2018 11:18PM

  Re: I like this line:

AlbaNY_Ram238June 27, 2018 12:32AM

  Good point. Not cheap, incompetent contract staff

max245June 27, 2018 03:25AM

  not the issue though

zn257June 27, 2018 03:31AM

  It’s called incompetent

max267June 27, 2018 03:36AM

  Re: I do NOT want AD to be "top paid defender"

spagsbacker262June 27, 2018 01:03AM

  Re: I do NOT want AD to be "top paid defender"

AlbaNY_Ram256June 27, 2018 01:24AM

  Re: I ignore those posts...

spagsbacker300June 27, 2018 02:30AM

  Re: I ignore those posts...

AlbaNY_Ram205June 27, 2018 03:18AM

  They won’t pay him more than they have to

max233June 27, 2018 03:21AM

  trade

zn258June 27, 2018 03:35AM

  Yeah, I’m worried about Demoff

max254June 27, 2018 03:40AM

  you're right, yes you can

zn267June 27, 2018 03:57AM

  Re: you're right, yes you can

LMU93216June 27, 2018 05:34AM

  Re: you're right, yes you can

zn204June 27, 2018 09:37AM

  It would be nice....

wv ram223June 27, 2018 10:32AM

  Keep in mind...

max205June 27, 2018 01:54PM

  show me... less money

wv ram263June 27, 2018 03:27PM

  Re: show me... less money

max220June 28, 2018 12:33AM

  totally agree

CeeZar223June 28, 2018 03:53AM

  wishing

wv ram198June 28, 2018 08:05AM

  Except Donald is far from where Brady is

max162June 28, 2018 04:18PM

  Re: Except Donald is far from where Brady is

zn171June 28, 2018 04:23PM

  yep

max188June 28, 2018 04:35PM

  happiness

wv ram179June 29, 2018 05:30AM

  Re: They may not be cheap but their philosophy is becoming apparent...

dzrams198June 27, 2018 04:26PM

  Re: They may not be cheap but their philosophy is becoming apparent...

zn215June 27, 2018 06:18PM

  JJ, TruJ, Watkins

RamBill245June 29, 2018 05:09AM

  Re: JJ, TruJ, Watkins

dzrams194June 29, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: JJ, TruJ, Watkins

RamBill160June 29, 2018 08:03PM

  Re: JJ v. TruJ

dzrams170June 29, 2018 08:18PM

  Re: JJ v. TruJ

zn164June 30, 2018 04:55AM

  Several things occur to me...

Rams43310June 27, 2018 07:27AM

  You don't think Demoff knows what he's doing

BigGame81213June 27, 2018 07:34AM

  Re: You don't think Demoff knows what he's doing

ramBRO231June 27, 2018 07:53AM

  Re: You don't think Demoff knows what he's doing

Rams43204June 27, 2018 09:11AM

  Re: You don't think Demoff knows what he's doing

ramBRO203June 27, 2018 09:21AM

  Re: You don't think Demoff knows what he's doing

Rams43197June 27, 2018 09:33AM

  No one is going to be highest paid in perpetuity

stlramz206June 27, 2018 09:13AM

  Re: No one is going to be highest paid in perpetuity

Rams43191June 27, 2018 09:25AM

  Re: No one is going to be highest paid in perpetuity

stlramz191June 27, 2018 10:50AM

  I say offer top D line pay plus a tad more and NO MORE.

Ramgator228June 27, 2018 04:25AM

  that's a low ball

zn240June 27, 2018 04:31AM

  Its gonna be significantly higher than $20M

max202June 27, 2018 04:51AM

  Low ball? How?

Ramgator225June 27, 2018 12:03PM

  because his market value is higher

zn192June 27, 2018 02:53PM

  Re: because his market value is higher

LMU93187June 27, 2018 03:26PM

  Re: Low ball? How?

waterfield194June 27, 2018 03:41PM

  would a guy be happy with being in the top 5 in pay for defensive players.....

roman18222June 27, 2018 07:27AM

  Re: Why should he?

dzrams251June 27, 2018 04:01PM

  Well IMO having a great place to play, having great players....

roman18247June 28, 2018 03:11AM

  Re: The Rams don't have a monopoly on those things...

dzrams188June 28, 2018 06:28AM

  Now I admit I am guessing/wishing on the SB ring part....

roman18219June 28, 2018 07:13AM

  Re: The Rams don't have a monopoly on those things...

Rams43278June 28, 2018 07:18AM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

dzrams765June 28, 2018 10:08AM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

zn709June 28, 2018 10:26AM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

Rams43238June 28, 2018 11:14AM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

dzrams173June 28, 2018 04:01PM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

Rams43151June 28, 2018 04:22PM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

dzrams170June 28, 2018 05:11PM

  I get your point......

roman18172June 28, 2018 11:25AM

  who made us psychologists?

zn207June 28, 2018 11:43AM

  Who is saying I am a psychologist, or playing one?

roman18256June 29, 2018 03:16AM

  Re: Who is saying I am a psychologist, or playing one?

zn261June 29, 2018 04:54AM

  I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

RAMbler349June 27, 2018 08:25AM

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AlbaNY_Ram212June 27, 2018 08:33AM

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Rams43206June 27, 2018 09:16AM

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ramBRO212June 27, 2018 09:17AM

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Rams43225June 27, 2018 09:38AM

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ramBRO223June 27, 2018 10:16AM

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Rams43204June 27, 2018 10:42AM

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Rampage2K-209June 27, 2018 11:41AM

  Re: I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

AlbaNY_Ram202June 27, 2018 10:35AM

  the "opt out" rumor was last year

zn183June 27, 2018 12:43PM

  Rumor: AD wants to be paid like a top QB...

Rams43227June 29, 2018 09:00AM

  I doubt it but either way there are no real sources cause no one knows

zn285June 29, 2018 09:10AM

  Re: I doubt it but either way there are no real sources cause no one knows

Rams43267June 29, 2018 09:41AM

  Re: I doubt it but either way there are no real sources cause no one knows

ramBRO239June 29, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: I doubt it but either way there are no real sources cause no one knows

Rampage2K-239June 29, 2018 01:08PM

  Re: I doubt it but either way there are no real sources cause no one knows

zn424June 29, 2018 01:48PM

  Re: Rumor: AD wants to be paid like a top QB...

Rampage2K-312June 29, 2018 01:40PM

  Ol Clint said it best....

Ramgator311June 29, 2018 02:23PM

  That rumor sounds like all the other rumors

IowaRam198June 29, 2018 02:03PM