January 30, 2018 10:31PM
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Ram49
I've never understood why this has been treated so lightly.

Folks, no matter where your 'feelings' are on this issue, they were caught cheating multiple times. Video tapes were destroyed. Read that again. EVIDENCE WAS DESTROYED.

How does this fly so low under the radar: [www.espn.com]

Players, coaches, etc. have all come out against their tactics in stealing information; how they affected championships, etc.

The Olympics, NCAA, NBA, Baseball, Cricket, the Tour de France.....all rocked with massive cheating scandals.

Somehow, the NFL and the New England Patriots have been caught multiple times and yet it is barely considered in calling them the "GOAT" ....

This either exposes the power of the NFL or shows just how far money can get you in cheating within a major sports league.

Weirdest 'non-story' I've ever seen.

They were busted and punished for having illegal tapes.

That's all they COULD be busted for, since there is no rule in the league against stealing signals or using them once stolen.

So the tapes proved the one thing that they could be charged with...that they taped signals.

There is nothing else that could come out of that investigation because that was the only pertinent rule.

This whole silly "they destroyed evidence" routine is tiresome because it's based on not understanding the issue.

The issue is this. They violated a rule. You can't tape signals. The one rule they violated, they were busted for.

IT IS NOT ILLEGAL IN THE NFL TO STEAL SIGNALS OR TO USE STOLEN SIGNALS.

So they were busted for the one thing they could be busted for, and on top of it, you can't compound infractions. If you have one illegal tape, or 100, it's the same thing.

Now if you doubt me show me the rule in the NFL rules where it says you cannot steal signals or use stolen signals. Good luck because there is no such rule.

So. AGAIN. They were caught violating the only relevant rule, busted for it, and punished.

That's it. The tapes can serve no other purpose. Not unless you can directly name and quote any other relevant rule they might have violated. The only thing the tapes could prove is that they violated the non-taping rule and beyond that, there's nothing.

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SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Spagnuolo: Patriots Are Cheaters

Ram491461January 29, 2018 08:48PM

  Preach it Steve!

stlramz472January 29, 2018 08:58PM

  Way to go, Spag's!

brgjoe374January 29, 2018 10:57PM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

MamaRAMa353January 30, 2018 03:25AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

zn360January 30, 2018 03:45AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

MamaRAMa461January 30, 2018 04:23AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

Speedball89299January 30, 2018 08:09AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

VANRAM319January 30, 2018 01:43PM

  Would be Justice

EastRam289January 30, 2018 01:52PM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

zn366January 30, 2018 02:02PM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

Speedball89275January 30, 2018 07:19PM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

Ekern55276January 31, 2018 08:54AM

  Moot point to argue that...

max302January 30, 2018 04:30AM

  you misread

zn403January 30, 2018 09:11PM

  Re: you misread

max264January 31, 2018 01:22AM

  Re: Moot point to argue that...

Ekern55260January 31, 2018 08:58AM

  Wait a minute

waterfield294January 31, 2018 09:42AM

  Re: Wait a minute

Ekern55389January 31, 2018 09:59AM

  Re: Wait a minute

waterfield385January 31, 2018 03:43PM

  Re: Moot point to argue that...

Ramsdude266January 31, 2018 11:32AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

Rampage2K-297January 30, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

Ekern55411January 31, 2018 08:41AM

  Also, other breaking news from this report.........

Paydirt387January 30, 2018 03:59AM

  Can someone post the text from the article?

RamsFanSince69278January 30, 2018 05:36AM

  Philly.com article

MamaRAMa307January 30, 2018 05:41AM

  Thanks Mama!

RamsFanSince69284January 30, 2018 06:00AM

  Article: Orlando Pace Still Bitter About Patriots

Ram49352January 30, 2018 06:31AM

  Re: Spagnuolo: Patriots Are Cheaters

Ramkind325January 30, 2018 07:48AM

  Ramkind

21Dog289January 30, 2018 03:15PM

  Re: Ramkind

waterfield254January 31, 2018 07:42AM

  Re: Spagnuolo: Patriots Are Cheaters

Ekern55241January 31, 2018 10:24AM

  this will all come out 20 years from now

ferragamo79365January 30, 2018 09:00AM

  One of the most bizarre things I've seen in sports

Ram49336January 30, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: One of the most bizarre things I've seen in sports

Ramsdude294January 30, 2018 01:04PM

  Re: I think it all comes down after Sunday's game.

oldschoolramfan307January 30, 2018 01:13PM

  Its stunning it's dismissed

Ram49310January 30, 2018 01:14PM

  Re: Its stunning it's dismissed

Ramsdude306January 30, 2018 01:30PM

  that's an empty argument

zn307January 30, 2018 10:31PM

  Re: that's an empty argument

Ramsdude514January 31, 2018 03:11AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

zn309January 31, 2018 03:29AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

max271January 31, 2018 05:40AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

zn341January 31, 2018 06:03AM

  "Of course it helped them" = Cheating! (nm)

RAMbler280January 31, 2018 06:26AM

  Don't you think...

DaJudge292January 31, 2018 10:54AM

  Huh?

zn247January 31, 2018 02:17PM

  Re: that's an empty argument

max272January 31, 2018 07:16AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

MamaRAMa293January 31, 2018 07:31AM

  Argghhh!

NewMexicoRam261January 31, 2018 09:18AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

zn275January 31, 2018 07:42AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

max271January 31, 2018 08:56AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

zn277January 31, 2018 02:19PM

  Re: that's an empty argument

Shaky301February 01, 2018 12:24AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

Shaky286February 01, 2018 12:26AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

Ekern55264January 31, 2018 10:42AM

  Rule 17, Section 2, Article 1

stlramz454January 31, 2018 07:53AM

  not a pertinent rule in fact it's not a rule

zn255January 31, 2018 08:55AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

Ekern55260January 31, 2018 10:40AM

  Wrong

Ram49280January 31, 2018 10:45AM

  not

zn260January 31, 2018 02:11PM

  Re: not

Ekern55271January 31, 2018 05:57PM

  Re: not

zn273January 31, 2018 07:02PM

  The destroyed tape is what kills me.

stlramz277January 31, 2018 07:42AM

  there are plenty of reasons for that and they have been listed several times

zn425January 31, 2018 07:43AM

  Questions

Ram49457January 31, 2018 10:44AM

  my question

zn277January 31, 2018 02:13PM

  I cheered as loud as I would have for the Rams when...

NewMexicoRam272January 31, 2018 09:06AM

  IMO there are ways to get ready for a team you are playing.....

roman18299January 31, 2018 12:08PM

  Re: IMO there are ways to get ready for a team you are playing.....

Ekern55392January 31, 2018 06:08PM

  Re: IMO there are ways to get ready for a team you are playing.....

Ramkind280January 31, 2018 07:01PM

  this pretty much sums it up right here ....

Rampage2K-686January 31, 2018 08:57PM