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there are plenty of reasons for that and they have been listed several times

January 31, 2018 07:43AM
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stlramz
What would be the reason for that? Logically, what would be the reason you destroy a tape other than there is something on there you DONT want others to see.

If they showed the tape and it showed nothing or at least nothing significant, it would be easier to swallow.

I mean even careful, diplomatic Kurt Warner questions the destruction of the tape.

See once you know the facts on this, the whole "but they destroyed the tapes" mantra tends to disappear.


1. Because their very existence as tapes violated league rules.

2. The Patz argued that the league could not take the tapes since the tapes had legal things on them which means the Patz owned the tapes. The league response was fine, we'll just destroy them.

3. The tapes contained stolen signals and so could not be allowed to exist since they could be used, and once the league knew that and had its hands on them, it could not allow them to exist, or it would be party to their use. The league's power to destroy them came from point #1---the very existence of such tapes violated league rules.

If you dont know these details you really don't know the story.

And again, this is crucial---IT IS NOT AGAINST LEAGUE RULES TO STEAL SIGNALS OR TO USE STOLEN SIGNALS. The league considers that unenforceable so that security is up to each individual team.

THEREFORE the tapes could not contain anything else that violated league rules.

The existing rule the Patz DID violate was to tape signals. They were busted and punished for that.

So unless you can name another rule the Patz could have (hypothetically) violated, then this whole "destroyed evidence" mantra is just based on not understanding the situation. And it has to be a real rule the NFL has on record. Not some made up idea.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/31/2018 07:44AM by zn.
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  Spagnuolo: Patriots Are Cheaters

Ram491457January 29, 2018 08:48PM

  Preach it Steve!

stlramz468January 29, 2018 08:58PM

  Way to go, Spag's!

brgjoe371January 29, 2018 10:57PM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

MamaRAMa349January 30, 2018 03:25AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

zn356January 30, 2018 03:45AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

MamaRAMa457January 30, 2018 04:23AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

Speedball89295January 30, 2018 08:09AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

VANRAM314January 30, 2018 01:43PM

  Would be Justice

EastRam287January 30, 2018 01:52PM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

zn362January 30, 2018 02:02PM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

Speedball89271January 30, 2018 07:19PM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

Ekern55273January 31, 2018 08:54AM

  Moot point to argue that...

max298January 30, 2018 04:30AM

  you misread

zn399January 30, 2018 09:11PM

  Re: you misread

max261January 31, 2018 01:22AM

  Re: Moot point to argue that...

Ekern55257January 31, 2018 08:58AM

  Wait a minute

waterfield290January 31, 2018 09:42AM

  Re: Wait a minute

Ekern55386January 31, 2018 09:59AM

  Re: Wait a minute

waterfield382January 31, 2018 03:43PM

  Re: Moot point to argue that...

Ramsdude262January 31, 2018 11:32AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

Rampage2K-293January 30, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: Way to go, Spag's!

Ekern55409January 31, 2018 08:41AM

  Also, other breaking news from this report.........

Paydirt383January 30, 2018 03:59AM

  Can someone post the text from the article?

RamsFanSince69276January 30, 2018 05:36AM

  Philly.com article

MamaRAMa304January 30, 2018 05:41AM

  Thanks Mama!

RamsFanSince69281January 30, 2018 06:00AM

  Article: Orlando Pace Still Bitter About Patriots

Ram49348January 30, 2018 06:31AM

  Re: Spagnuolo: Patriots Are Cheaters

Ramkind321January 30, 2018 07:48AM

  Ramkind

21Dog283January 30, 2018 03:15PM

  Re: Ramkind

waterfield250January 31, 2018 07:42AM

  Re: Spagnuolo: Patriots Are Cheaters

Ekern55239January 31, 2018 10:24AM

  this will all come out 20 years from now

ferragamo79361January 30, 2018 09:00AM

  One of the most bizarre things I've seen in sports

Ram49332January 30, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: One of the most bizarre things I've seen in sports

Ramsdude291January 30, 2018 01:04PM

  Re: I think it all comes down after Sunday's game.

oldschoolramfan303January 30, 2018 01:13PM

  Its stunning it's dismissed

Ram49305January 30, 2018 01:14PM

  Re: Its stunning it's dismissed

Ramsdude302January 30, 2018 01:30PM

  that's an empty argument

zn304January 30, 2018 10:31PM

  Re: that's an empty argument

Ramsdude510January 31, 2018 03:11AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

zn305January 31, 2018 03:29AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

max267January 31, 2018 05:40AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

zn337January 31, 2018 06:03AM

  "Of course it helped them" = Cheating! (nm)

RAMbler276January 31, 2018 06:26AM

  Don't you think...

DaJudge287January 31, 2018 10:54AM

  Huh?

zn244January 31, 2018 02:17PM

  Re: that's an empty argument

max268January 31, 2018 07:16AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

MamaRAMa289January 31, 2018 07:31AM

  Argghhh!

NewMexicoRam257January 31, 2018 09:18AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

zn271January 31, 2018 07:42AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

max267January 31, 2018 08:56AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

zn273January 31, 2018 02:19PM

  Re: that's an empty argument

Shaky297February 01, 2018 12:24AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

Shaky281February 01, 2018 12:26AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

Ekern55262January 31, 2018 10:42AM

  Rule 17, Section 2, Article 1

stlramz450January 31, 2018 07:53AM

  not a pertinent rule in fact it's not a rule

zn251January 31, 2018 08:55AM

  Re: that's an empty argument

Ekern55258January 31, 2018 10:40AM

  Wrong

Ram49276January 31, 2018 10:45AM

  not

zn256January 31, 2018 02:11PM

  Re: not

Ekern55268January 31, 2018 05:57PM

  Re: not

zn269January 31, 2018 07:02PM

  The destroyed tape is what kills me.

stlramz273January 31, 2018 07:42AM

  there are plenty of reasons for that and they have been listed several times

zn420January 31, 2018 07:43AM

  Questions

Ram49454January 31, 2018 10:44AM

  my question

zn273January 31, 2018 02:13PM

  I cheered as loud as I would have for the Rams when...

NewMexicoRam268January 31, 2018 09:06AM

  IMO there are ways to get ready for a team you are playing.....

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Ramkind276January 31, 2018 07:01PM

  this pretty much sums it up right here ....

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