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December 29, 2017 08:24AM
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It stands to reason that if they did not have those conditions from 2012-15 then they would have done better. Heck players on opposing teams knew that at the time, let alone the Rams players.

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Since you're always demanding "direct evidence" or a "direct quote", where's yours on this statement?

Because it's simple football reasoning.

First, name me any examples of teams that DID do well under the conditions I named. Lots of examples jump to mind?

Why not?

Because it is harder to win when you BOTH do not have a starting caliber qb AND your OL is heavily compromised by multiple injuries.

It's not just that you can't name any teams that did well under those conditions, it's because those conditions by definition diminish an offense's effectiveness.

So I just assume players are at least THAT smart, because they understand football.

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Ahhh, ok. So now "direct evidence" is not required. Got it.

Do you need direct evidence that if you drive a regular car 100 mph into a brick wall that it will damage the car and most likely you too?

It;s the logic of the situation.

You need direct evidence if someone is making a specific claim about something presumably someone said.

If I said when it rains you will get wet outside unless you have rainwear or an umbrella, it's based on the logic of the situation.

You could disprove me by showing examples of teams that DID win under the exact conditions I named. In that case you would be disproving my claim that logically you expect a team under those conditions to not do as well, and that it's so clear any ordinary player would know that in advance.

So unless you have a response like that, I personally will consider you as having not accounted for the actual argument. cool smiley


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Now you're moving the goalposts. I was addressing your quote "Heck players on opposing teams knew that at the time" only. Nothing else. You are always asking others for "direct evidence" or "direct quotes" so that's all I was asking of you to prove what you said. That's it, has nothing to do with your examples and analogies above.
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  Is Fisher really claiming the credit?

RamUK792December 28, 2017 01:00PM

  Re: Is Fisher really claiming the credit?

MamaRAMa288December 28, 2017 01:06PM

  very revealing that players were vocal about McVay

max278December 28, 2017 02:02PM

  Re: Is Fisher really claiming the credit?

zn261December 28, 2017 02:22PM

  Re: Is Fisher really claiming the credit?

MamaRAMa321December 28, 2017 02:34PM

  totally agree Mama

max198December 28, 2017 03:09PM

  Terrific post

Speedball89204December 28, 2017 03:20PM

  enh

zn251December 28, 2017 03:27PM

  I get your call for even-handedness concerning Fisher, but

RockRam225December 29, 2017 02:11AM

  it;s simple

zn221December 29, 2017 03:28AM

  Zn, implications matter. You don't need "direct evidence"

RockRam211December 29, 2017 03:50AM

  no "implications" are subjective

zn220December 29, 2017 04:10AM

  No they're not

9er8er147December 29, 2017 11:00AM

  Well, you know that.......

NewMexicoRam251December 29, 2017 02:54AM

  Re: Well, you know that.......

Ram Fan Teacher159December 29, 2017 04:07AM

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dzrams324December 29, 2017 06:31AM

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zn193December 29, 2017 06:36AM

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dzrams319December 29, 2017 07:00AM

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zn176December 29, 2017 07:07AM

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RamsFanSinceLA173December 29, 2017 07:13AM

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zn151December 29, 2017 07:26AM

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RamsFanSinceLA149December 29, 2017 07:28AM

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zn181December 29, 2017 07:37AM

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RamsFanSinceLA150December 29, 2017 08:24AM

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dzrams182December 29, 2017 07:25AM

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zn172December 29, 2017 07:32AM

  RE: Fair enough...

dzrams137December 29, 2017 08:34AM

  Re: RE: Fair enough...

zn186December 29, 2017 10:19AM

  Re: I doubt this part...

Ram Fan Teacher164December 29, 2017 07:29AM

  Re: I doubt this part...

zn161December 29, 2017 07:43AM

  Here's what the players know and what they said...

max164December 29, 2017 07:03AM

  Re: Here's what the players know and what they said...

zn162December 29, 2017 07:11AM

  Basically, Fisher is acknowledging he's a lousy HC

six2stack164December 29, 2017 07:19AM

  naw

zn177December 29, 2017 07:23AM

  In my opinion

stlramz186December 28, 2017 03:02PM

  Jeff seems to forget the roster talent he was given

promomasterj212December 28, 2017 03:13PM

  He's wanting credit for building the roster; so yes.

RockRam193December 29, 2017 01:05AM

  I can give you SEVERAL names

zn218December 29, 2017 04:07AM

  You apparently didn't read the post.

RockRam189December 29, 2017 04:47AM

  yes I did and here's how I responded

zn183December 29, 2017 05:19AM

  Here is Jeff Fisher's major downfall ZN

GreatRamNTheSky196December 29, 2017 05:29AM

  Re: Here is Jeff Fisher's major downfall ZN

zn204December 29, 2017 05:39AM

  Anyone who promotes Scott Boras as the OC

GreatRamNTheSky298December 29, 2017 06:36AM

  still not addressing what I said

zn189December 29, 2017 06:53AM

  Re: Here is Jeff Fisher's major downfall ZN

GreatRamNTheSky186December 29, 2017 06:45AM

  and here's what you don't account for in 2016

zn210December 29, 2017 06:57AM

  Perfect Rock. zn is a

RAMSINCE ARNETT293December 29, 2017 05:38AM

  Please stop

Coy Bacon242December 29, 2017 05:54AM

  Re: Perfect Rock. zn is a

waterfield373December 29, 2017 07:49AM

  Give Fisher where credit where credit is due

Rams_81191December 29, 2017 06:34AM

  again: Snead or Fisher- who did the drafting

ferragamo79181December 29, 2017 08:06AM

  we KNOW who did the drafting

zn213December 29, 2017 08:21AM

  Fisher is a good personnel guy, but a bad coach - Fair?

promomasterj367December 29, 2017 08:08AM

  The level of hate for Fisher is astounding

Blue and Gold185December 29, 2017 07:23AM

  Re: The level of hate for Fisher is astounding

waterfield169December 29, 2017 07:57AM

  Re: I tend to agree with this

Speed_Kills298December 29, 2017 08:21AM

  He left us in good shape because he left

David Deacon163December 29, 2017 11:10AM