December 25, 2016 09:22AM
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I know, I know . . . He's a rookie, and he has a Swiss Cheese line, no receivers,...c. But, if I'm just zooming in on Goff, and no one else, I'm just not seeing him play within any pattern that matches up with all of that, with his context.

Well as a rule, how many rookie qbs have you ever seen playing under those conditiosn who DID play well.

You want to know what a talented rookie qb looks like when there is no running game, the OL is playing poorly, and the receivers are mediocre?

Like Goff has.

Yet...somehow, you think that says something about Goff?

So again---how many rookie qbs have you seen with no running game, leaky protection, and mediocre receivers who DID look good according to your criteria?

In contrast to you, in the midst of the chaos, I CAN see the unique talents Goff brings to the game. It's there, in the middle of all the mayhem. It CAN be seen.

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I get what you're saying and to a large extent agree, but to suggest that how Goff is playing has nothing to do with how good Goff is, is a tad out there.

And no one suggested that. What one suggested is that no rookie qb plays well under the conditions I named. Like, literally, none. So the real issue is to avoid thinking that a rookie who struggles under those conditions is showing you "who he is."

What to me is "out there" is trying to act like the conditions I described don't matter, don't count, and are not a huge part of it. That we are just seeing "Goff."

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SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

Billy_T815December 25, 2016 04:43AM

  That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

GreatRamNTheSky305December 25, 2016 04:54AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

Billy_T540December 25, 2016 04:59AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

GreatRamNTheSky365December 25, 2016 05:02AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

73Ram331December 25, 2016 05:23AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

poplarbluffman182December 26, 2016 02:19AM

  zero

wv ram430December 25, 2016 05:26AM

  Re: zero

Billy_T393December 25, 2016 07:55AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

zn530December 25, 2016 06:04AM

  How can it NOT say something about Goff?

RamUK344December 25, 2016 08:01AM

  What are you really looking for

BumRap241December 25, 2016 08:16AM

  Re: How can it NOT say something about Goff?

Billy_T490December 25, 2016 08:18AM

  Re: Unrealistic

BumRap308December 25, 2016 08:42AM

  Re: How can it NOT say something about Goff?

zn356December 25, 2016 09:22AM

  Re: How can it NOT say something about Goff?

moklerman280December 26, 2016 01:05AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

Billy_T397December 25, 2016 08:08AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

zn188December 26, 2016 03:35AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

Billy_T190December 26, 2016 04:19AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

zn309December 26, 2016 04:39AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

Billy_T190December 26, 2016 04:49AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

zn196December 26, 2016 05:23AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

Billy_T191December 26, 2016 05:54AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

zn382December 26, 2016 06:12AM

  Do I get a gold star

RamUK371December 25, 2016 07:59AM

  Re: Yep. Well done.

Billy_T360December 25, 2016 08:23AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

Rams43219December 25, 2016 08:32AM

  you're seeing EXACTLY the pattern

zn342December 25, 2016 06:03PM

  Not seeing a pattern yet? I don't see our WRs running any!!

SunTzu_vs_Camus191December 26, 2016 04:22AM

  Re: Not seeing a pattern yet? I don't see our WRs running any!!

Billy_T294December 26, 2016 04:38AM

  Re: Good post

Speed_Kills193December 26, 2016 05:33AM

  Re: Enzyme deficiency? I missed that, SK.

Billy_T198December 26, 2016 06:05AM

  it's NOT a continuing issue

zn262December 26, 2016 06:15AM

  as in

zn206December 26, 2016 06:23AM