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Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

December 25, 2016 08:08AM
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I know, I know . . . He's a rookie, and he has a Swiss Cheese line, no receivers,...c. But, if I'm just zooming in on Goff, and no one else, I'm just not seeing him play within any pattern that matches up with all of that, with his context.

Well as a rule, how many rookie qbs have you ever seen playing under those conditiosn who DID play well.

You want to know what a talented rookie qb looks like when there is no running game, the OL is playing poorly, and the receivers are mediocre?

Like Goff has.

Yet...somehow, you think that says something about Goff?

So again---how many rookie qbs have you seen with no running game, leaky protection, and mediocre receivers who DID look good according to your criteria?

In contrast to you, in the midst of the chaos, I CAN see the unique talents Goff brings to the game. It's there, in the middle of all the mayhem. It CAN be seen. ...


Again, as I mentioned to GRITS above, I'm not making any blanket statements about his game. I don't see it as all bad or all good or anything close to that. And I said he makes great plays. So, that means I can see his "unique talents" too. The puzzling thing for me is that these great plays don't seem to form any logical pattern . . . There doesn't seem to be a logical "cause and effect" progression for them. We agree that he has a lousy line, poor receivers, no running game and poor coaching . . . . At least I think we agree on that. But if that's the context, then his play shouldn't really be all that erratic, with all kinds of highs and lows. It should be fairly consistent in being consistently rotten -- one would think. Or, if he's truly a major talent, he would rise above his context more often than not, and he doesn't. He does so here and there.

So, the proverbial jury is still out, and I was hoping it wouldn't be. I was hoping we'd know by now that if . . . .

1. The Rams surrounded him with talent and good to great coaching . . .
2. The Rams failed to do so . . . .

we could project, with some hope for accuracy, how he'd do.

IMO, we can't. And that's a little disappointing and frustrating to me.

That said . . . if I had to guess, based upon the sketchy scenario on display so far, I'd say he's going to be good. I don't see "greatness" in him. But I think he will be good. But, again, he is in serious need of some major, heavy duty weight training, or he's gonna get kilt.
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  Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

Billy_T813December 25, 2016 04:43AM

  That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

GreatRamNTheSky303December 25, 2016 04:54AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

Billy_T534December 25, 2016 04:59AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

GreatRamNTheSky363December 25, 2016 05:02AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

73Ram329December 25, 2016 05:23AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

poplarbluffman179December 26, 2016 02:19AM

  zero

wv ram427December 25, 2016 05:26AM

  Re: zero

Billy_T391December 25, 2016 07:55AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

zn528December 25, 2016 06:04AM

  How can it NOT say something about Goff?

RamUK342December 25, 2016 08:01AM

  What are you really looking for

BumRap239December 25, 2016 08:16AM

  Re: How can it NOT say something about Goff?

Billy_T488December 25, 2016 08:18AM

  Re: Unrealistic

BumRap307December 25, 2016 08:42AM

  Re: How can it NOT say something about Goff?

zn354December 25, 2016 09:22AM

  Re: How can it NOT say something about Goff?

moklerman278December 26, 2016 01:05AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

Billy_T395December 25, 2016 08:08AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

zn185December 26, 2016 03:35AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

Billy_T187December 26, 2016 04:19AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

zn304December 26, 2016 04:39AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

Billy_T187December 26, 2016 04:49AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

zn194December 26, 2016 05:23AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

Billy_T188December 26, 2016 05:54AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

zn375December 26, 2016 06:12AM

  Do I get a gold star

RamUK369December 25, 2016 07:59AM

  Re: Yep. Well done.

Billy_T357December 25, 2016 08:23AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

Rams43216December 25, 2016 08:32AM

  you're seeing EXACTLY the pattern

zn340December 25, 2016 06:03PM

  Not seeing a pattern yet? I don't see our WRs running any!!

SunTzu_vs_Camus190December 26, 2016 04:22AM

  Re: Not seeing a pattern yet? I don't see our WRs running any!!

Billy_T292December 26, 2016 04:38AM

  Re: Good post

Speed_Kills191December 26, 2016 05:33AM

  Re: Enzyme deficiency? I missed that, SK.

Billy_T196December 26, 2016 06:05AM

  it's NOT a continuing issue

zn260December 26, 2016 06:15AM

  as in

zn204December 26, 2016 06:23AM