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Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

December 26, 2016 04:49AM
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But if that's the context, then his play shouldn't really be all that erratic, with all kinds of highs and lows. It should be fairly consistent in being consistently rotten -- one would think. .

It's not clear to me why you would say that. I am not sure why you would think it would be THAT way. For one thing, we have absolutely no idea what the plays are, what the progressions are, or what defense they expected to see, or whether or not there was a sight adjustment that a WR missed out on, or whether or not there was a lazy route run disrupting the timing, and so on.

In other words, I am not sure, exactly, how we're supposed to look for the consistency in inconsistency.

Bulger used to have long streaks where his accuracy was off. Some claimed he was streaky under pressure. When in fact if you watched that wasn't the case at all---sometimes he was streaky without pressure, and sometimes he was dead-on accurate under pressure. In the end you just had to say "Bulger can be streaky."

So to me, a rookie qb with a lot of passing talent can be inconsistent when the protection isn't holding up and there's no running game so the entire offense is on his shoulders. Plus there's the fact that for their last 3 games, regardless of the qb, SF just seems to have the Rams number the way the Rams have Seattle's number.

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I think the Rams' line is horrible. And I've been a critic of their drafting for that line, especially under Fisher. They can't open holes, consistently, for Gurley, and they can't give their QBs adequate time to throw.

Okay, then. Swiss cheese line, as mentioned. So what's the logical effect of this? Goff being consistently terrible when he drops back to pass. He's a rookie, after all. Lousy coaching, scheme, blocking, no running game, etc. etc.

But I see him make really good throws under pressure, after the line has broken down -- as is its wont. But I also see him make terrible throws in the rare times he does have time . . . in the rare times his line actually does give him a solid pocket. So in that case, cause and effect is out of kilter. He shows moxy and sharp passing at times when the line breaks down . . . . but makes dumb decisions and poor throws when the line does its job.

That tells me it's not just about the rotten situation he fell into it. That tells me, on his own, Goff is making bad decisions and lousy throws, or good decisions and great throws, when one would think the "cause" would produce the opposite.
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Question: how come they could run with that OL last year?

And anyway on Goff, he's a rookie---rookies are inconsistent. That's just what an inconsistent rookie does. The "cause" in the cause and effect is being a rookie.

Last year? I think Gurley made a lot out of very little. He would get stopped, then stopped again, then stopped again, usually due to the absence of holes, but then would find a crease and take it to the house or for long runs. The Rams, even last year, if memory serves, never consistently opened holes for him or anyone else. It was usually "boom or bust" and mostly bust.

As for rookies. Of course, it's going to be rough for them. But in that roughness you can see if this or that guy has "it," despite the obstacles. And what I'm saying is that I see "it" from Goff and then I see "it" completely disappear. And that's often regardless of his time in the pocket, or the lack thereof.

The "it" thing should carry through more than it has for Goff, even as a rookie. And, again, I in no way expect it to happen even "often" in his first year -- especially given his team -- much less all the time. I'm saying that I see too little of it, for the first player chosen, regardless of his context.

You and I just aren't going to agree about this one, ZN. I see what I see. You see what you see. Not much more to be said beyond that.
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  Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

Billy_T813December 25, 2016 04:43AM

  That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

GreatRamNTheSky303December 25, 2016 04:54AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

Billy_T534December 25, 2016 04:59AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

GreatRamNTheSky363December 25, 2016 05:02AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

73Ram330December 25, 2016 05:23AM

  Re: That is because his coaching here with Rams has sucked.

poplarbluffman179December 26, 2016 02:19AM

  zero

wv ram427December 25, 2016 05:26AM

  Re: zero

Billy_T391December 25, 2016 07:55AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

zn528December 25, 2016 06:04AM

  How can it NOT say something about Goff?

RamUK342December 25, 2016 08:01AM

  What are you really looking for

BumRap239December 25, 2016 08:16AM

  Re: How can it NOT say something about Goff?

Billy_T488December 25, 2016 08:18AM

  Re: Unrealistic

BumRap307December 25, 2016 08:42AM

  Re: How can it NOT say something about Goff?

zn354December 25, 2016 09:22AM

  Re: How can it NOT say something about Goff?

moklerman278December 26, 2016 01:05AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

Billy_T396December 25, 2016 08:08AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

zn186December 26, 2016 03:35AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

Billy_T187December 26, 2016 04:19AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

zn304December 26, 2016 04:39AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

Billy_T187December 26, 2016 04:49AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

zn194December 26, 2016 05:23AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

Billy_T189December 26, 2016 05:54AM

  Re: To be a bit more specific . . . .

zn376December 26, 2016 06:12AM

  Do I get a gold star

RamUK369December 25, 2016 07:59AM

  Re: Yep. Well done.

Billy_T357December 25, 2016 08:23AM

  Re: Can't figure Goff out. Not seeing a pattern yet.

Rams43216December 25, 2016 08:32AM

  you're seeing EXACTLY the pattern

zn340December 25, 2016 06:03PM

  Not seeing a pattern yet? I don't see our WRs running any!!

SunTzu_vs_Camus190December 26, 2016 04:22AM

  Re: Not seeing a pattern yet? I don't see our WRs running any!!

Billy_T292December 26, 2016 04:38AM

  Re: Good post

Speed_Kills191December 26, 2016 05:33AM

  Re: Enzyme deficiency? I missed that, SK.

Billy_T196December 26, 2016 06:05AM

  it's NOT a continuing issue

zn260December 26, 2016 06:15AM

  as in

zn204December 26, 2016 06:23AM