September 27, 2016 05:44PM
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maybe a little better, but not really.....if the Rams are gonna take it to the next level....Goff needs to play and be good

I agree that Goff is a step up. I doubt anyone would disagree. Or to put that emphatically, I doubt ANYONE would disagree. cool smiley

However, I don't agree that Clemens, Hill, or Feeley are as good as Keenum.

In the last 12 years, the Rams have a winning record starting only one other #2 type qb--Jamie Martin (career with Rams, 4-3...just 2005, 4-1).

Here are all the others from 2005 on, in chronological order.

Fitzpatrick, 2005: 0-3.
Frerotte, 2007: 1-2
Berlin, 2007: 0-1
Green, 2008: 0-1
Boller, 2009: 0-4
Null, 2008: 0-4
Feeley, 2011: 1-2
Clemens, 2011 & 2013: 5-7
Davis, 2014: 3-5
Hill, 2014: 3-5

Keenum, 2015 & 2016: 5-3

Martin of course played with the GSOT offense in 2005.

Wins aren't on the qb alone of course, but it's a rough indicator to see whom the team could win with and whom they couldn't.

Beyond that it's what we each see. I see a better qb in Keenum than in those others. And that's even with his rough start in 2016


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you aren't ranking these QB's by W's and L's?

LOL, this Ram team is light years better than the teams 3-4-5 years ago.

If Keenum played then or of those guys played now nothing would have changed except the names of the "winning" and "Losing" QB's... confused smiley

As for the subjective opinion that they would all do better now under these conditions, okay. I don;t think you have any basis for that cause a lot of those guys just sucked...but...okay. cool smiley

It does however put you in a position where you're saying this---the Rams could win with any one of them now, and Keenum IS winning now, which means he's doing what you expect of him, yet, somehow, that counts against him. (?)

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  Keenum is no better than Hill, Clemens or Feeley

ferragamo79925September 26, 2016 06:38PM

  Re: Keenum is no better than Hill, Clemens or Feeley

Speed_Kills549September 26, 2016 06:42PM

  You stole my thunder

RFIP443September 27, 2016 02:43AM

  different opinion

zn604September 26, 2016 06:59PM

  Re: different opinion

stlramz377September 26, 2016 08:12PM

  Re: different opinion

zn501September 26, 2016 08:32PM

  Rams QB ratings since "the dark times"...

LMU93420September 27, 2016 03:40AM

  a note on Rams QBs under Fisher

LMU93325September 27, 2016 03:53AM

  Re: a note on Rams QBs under Fisher

zn399September 27, 2016 04:11AM

  I think the # of passes is a chicken/egg thing.

Saguaro374September 27, 2016 06:59AM

  Which brings up an important question

stlramz417September 27, 2016 07:05PM

  Re: Austin Davis was better than Keenum

TonyHunter87400September 27, 2016 01:44PM

  Re: Austin Davis was better than Keenum

zn422September 27, 2016 09:03PM

  Re: Austin Davis was better than Keenum

TonyHunter87352September 27, 2016 10:52PM

  Re: Austin Davis was better than Keenum

zn378September 27, 2016 11:06PM

  Re: Austin Davis was better than Keenum

JamesJM391September 27, 2016 11:21PM

  Re: Austin Davis was better than Keenum

zn291September 27, 2016 11:30PM

  Re: Ok funny story about Warner

Speed_Kills254September 28, 2016 01:46PM

  Re: Ok funny story about Warner

zn251September 28, 2016 02:17PM

  Re: Austin Davis was better than Keenum

TonyHunter87580September 28, 2016 03:53PM

  Re: different opinion

jim beam574September 27, 2016 02:08PM

  Re: different opinion

zn374September 27, 2016 03:14PM

  Re: different opinion

kw13631September 27, 2016 04:03PM

  different guys

zn405September 27, 2016 04:44PM

  Please tell me

RFIP408September 27, 2016 04:42PM

  Re: Please tell me

zn375September 27, 2016 05:44PM

  Bulger was 6-1 in 2002 I believe

Rams_81311September 27, 2016 05:51PM

  Re: Bulger was 6-1 in 2002 I believe

zn507September 27, 2016 06:16PM

  Re: Bulger was 6-1 in 2002 I believe

TonyHunter87371September 27, 2016 10:56PM

  Re: Bulger was 6-1 in 2002 I believe

zn387September 27, 2016 11:37PM

  That is unfair

Rams_81258September 28, 2016 03:02AM

  I would never say that

zn409September 28, 2016 06:38AM

  No that is not what I am saying

Rams_81273September 28, 2016 10:12AM

  Re: No that is not what I am saying

TonyHunter87237September 28, 2016 11:43AM

  nope

zn247September 28, 2016 12:13PM

  I did love this

Rams_81263September 28, 2016 12:16PM

  Re: Keenum is no better than Hill, Clemens or Feeley

dodgerram422September 26, 2016 10:47PM

  Re: Keenum is no better than Hill, Clemens or Feeley

David Deacon421September 27, 2016 02:59AM

  Yup that's right

LesBaker459September 27, 2016 02:19PM

  I honestly don't know...

JamesJM244September 28, 2016 10:28AM

  Re: Keenum is no better than Hill, Clemens or Feeley

brownsugar391September 27, 2016 10:32AM