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Re: One small difference...

September 07, 2016 09:04PM
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And for the record I was defending Vermeil as well all 3 years. I always thought he was a top tier HC.

Fisher isn't in DV's class. Not close.

DV would be in the HOF if he didn't retire in 2000. He's better than Levy or Dungy ever were.

Fisher is mediocre. The excuses are ridiculous.

I don't agree that Fisher is mediocre...I think he's better than that. I agree about Vermiel but then no other Rams coach was or is in Vermeil's class. I don't believe that analyzing a team dynamic is "excuses." In fact I think the sole purpose of that word is to be dismissive. I tend to see the "e" word pop up when people point out things that really do tear all teams down, regardless of the coach, and the respondent doesn't have an answer to that. I just frankly have never heard of a team winning that lost its starting qb (in both cases with the Rams, for different reasons) and had to rely on #2 types (so no Warner in the background to save the day) AND at the same time had to rebuild its OL. So when people say the "e" word to that I just think "ah, so they have never seen that either." cool smiley

If in 99, the Rams had no Warner, lost Green, had to start Justin, and then also lost Miller, Gruttadauria, and Timmerman, plus had to play a partially hobbled Pace...most would not have been defending Vermeil, either. When people pointed out what the multiple offensive injuries did to the offense, there would be some who would just dismiss that analysis with the "e" word.
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  Just the way I see it...

max1366September 07, 2016 03:04AM

  I see things a bit differently.

David Deacon567September 07, 2016 03:27AM

  I will concede the OL looks better...

max479September 07, 2016 03:52AM

  from 7 wins to 10

wv ram515September 07, 2016 05:30AM

  Re: from 7 wins to 10

bigjimram21461September 07, 2016 03:42PM

  That is the issue really isn't it?

GreatRamNTheSky572September 07, 2016 03:55AM

  Well said.

PHDram482September 07, 2016 04:05AM

  I see potential as well. Fisher will be the limiting factor

RockRam618September 07, 2016 05:10AM

  That is a great point!

max458September 07, 2016 05:36AM

  you mean like martz in 1999?

PHDram613September 07, 2016 05:55AM

  Martz was considered an up and comer

RockRam459September 07, 2016 07:53AM

  according to who....

PHDram400September 07, 2016 08:06AM

  simple

zn413September 07, 2016 07:08PM

  Agreed

PHDram370September 08, 2016 03:47AM

  That OC hire looms very, very large for our hopes this season

merlin493September 07, 2016 07:52AM

  Re: Well said.

leafnose457September 07, 2016 05:12AM

  Re: Well said.....Agree GRITS and Leaf...

oldschoolramfan355September 07, 2016 07:55AM

  Re: That is the issue really isn't it?

max680September 07, 2016 04:13AM

  Re: That is the issue really isn't it?

21Dog425September 07, 2016 04:20AM

  Re: That is the issue really isn't it?

max437September 07, 2016 05:28AM

  That is the difference between you and me and Rockram

GreatRamNTheSky413September 07, 2016 05:55AM

  Re: That is the difference between you and me and Rockram

dodgerram617September 07, 2016 07:05AM

  Lots to agree in your post, Grits

dodgerram413September 07, 2016 07:03AM

  Re: That is the issue really isn't it?

oldschoolramfan408September 07, 2016 07:47AM

  Nice post Grits (nm)

RamUK400September 07, 2016 07:52AM

  on Keenum, their talent, season outlook

LMU93455September 07, 2016 04:16AM

  what we ALLL agree on...

wv ram494September 07, 2016 04:28AM

  One small difference...

max413September 07, 2016 05:31AM

  i got nuthin...

wv ram386September 07, 2016 07:55AM

  Knox, Robinson???

max351September 07, 2016 08:59AM

  Re: One small difference...

zn343September 07, 2016 08:57AM

  Re: One small difference...

max395September 07, 2016 09:04AM

  Re: brilliant selections at RB

leafnose324September 07, 2016 06:34PM

  Re: One small difference...

zn387September 07, 2016 09:04PM

  Re: what we ALLL agree on...

dodgerram543September 07, 2016 07:16AM

  Re: what we ALLL agree on...

LARams17421September 07, 2016 07:29AM

  gsot...

wv ram639September 07, 2016 08:01AM

  Here's the thing, IMHO

CeeZar546September 07, 2016 04:39AM

  Lynch was available without having to trade up...

Guard455September 07, 2016 05:56AM

  One Step Further...Dak Prescott

ramBRO477September 07, 2016 07:30AM

  +++1

dodgerram421September 07, 2016 07:35AM

  Re: Prescott has been all Pre-season.......

oldschoolramfan441September 07, 2016 08:00AM

  Re: So was Tony Banks

TonyHunter87487September 07, 2016 08:47PM

  That's it?

CeeZar365September 08, 2016 04:48AM

  If only we had a time machine

Kind of Blue/Gold526September 07, 2016 12:46PM

  Re: Here's the thing, IMHO

dodgerram458September 07, 2016 07:20AM

  Re: Just the way I see it...

Barf33415September 07, 2016 05:34AM

  Re: Just the way I see it...

max461September 07, 2016 05:45AM

  Re: Just the way I see it...

Barf33562September 07, 2016 05:56AM

  Re: Just the way I see it...

SoCalRAMatic524September 07, 2016 06:32AM

  Re: Just the way I see it...

LARams17411September 07, 2016 07:22AM

  This has become a pretty good "vent" thread...

Rams43473September 07, 2016 07:27AM

  So 43, how do you feel about Fisher getting extended now?

max425September 07, 2016 08:49AM

  Re: So 43, how do you feel about Fisher getting extended now?

Rams43442September 07, 2016 09:04AM

  Re: So 43, how do you feel about Fisher getting extended now?

max391September 07, 2016 09:10AM

  Re: So 43, how do you feel about Fisher getting extended now?

Rams43449September 07, 2016 09:18AM

  Re: So 43, how do you feel about Fisher getting extended now?

max431September 07, 2016 09:21AM

  Re: This has become a pretty good "vent" thread...

canuckramsfans459September 07, 2016 01:14PM

  Re: Just the way I see it...

Tony Romas412September 07, 2016 12:23PM

  My view

9er8er552September 07, 2016 06:42PM

  Re: My view

max404September 08, 2016 01:03AM