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Re: CK is not good enough to make the playoffs

August 29, 2016 05:26PM
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LARams17
BUT look at what our front office did. Mortgaged the future for a QB. Ask yourself, would they have done that if they thought Keenum was the guy to take them to the playoffs? They could have drafted Paxton or Dak and kept all of this year's and next year's draft choices. They made their move and that should speak volumes.

I agree with this but... I do think JG was/is the most "pro-ready" QB in the last draft. The problem is, college football is no longer about acting as a farm club for the NFL. It's about winning and huge money. This means that teams run schemes that are successful at the college level and are not successful at the pro level. You really don't see these spread offensive QB's (which includes both Keenum and Goff) coming in and being top level players early on other than in very rare situations. Let's not use Russell Wilson as an example, he's a guy that's always looking to throw the ball first and has the legs to buy time and get some yardage when he does decide to run. I loved Wilson coming out of college but had no idea he'd be the player he's pretty much been from day 1.

Then you have to factor in that next year's crop of college QB's is supposed to be down, even from this year. If the Rams know that CK is not the guy (which they must or they wouldn't have drafted Goff), then this was still the year to take the high pick and go all-in, IMHO. I don't care if Goff rides the pine this season. I see the value of riding the pine and keeping the vibe of being the "king in waiting" if perhaps he's a bit fragile mentally. I also see the value of getting playing time and learning through experience. It's just really hard to know which way is the right/best way and I actually think the right/best way can be different for different players and personalities.

If the Rams improve in all facets this year and CK has them at 8-8 or better, then I'm confident Goff comes in next season as the starter, from day #1 and is a better player next year than he is if named the starter day #1 this year. I'm tired of the poor Ram's record as anyone, but I see this year as a transition year much more than the last 3 or 4 years due to both the move back to LA and the drafting of a QB so high in the draft.

I don't think this move mortgaged the farm. They really only lost next year's first round pick and while they won't gain back high picks, I think they'll get at least 2 compensatory picks, possibly as high as a 4th, in next years draft. Plus, trading up to draft high in the first round no longer kills your salary cap like it used to (See Sam Bradford).

As for Paxton and Dak... Let's see what either of them does in a real NFL game or 10. My money is on Goff being the much better long-term success story than either of those other 2 and if I have to wait a year to see that happen, I'll live with it. Now, if we are at this same place at this time next year, and the Rams are still looking to have a journeyman type QB lead the team over Goff, I'm going to start pulling what little hair I have left, right out of my head.
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  Fisher needs to call BS on himself

LARams171199August 29, 2016 08:07AM

  Are you saying....

JamesJM562August 29, 2016 08:16AM

  Re: Are you saying....

LARams17574August 29, 2016 08:22AM

  Well, I have to admit...

JamesJM535August 29, 2016 08:28AM

  Re: Well, I have to admit...

Rams43491August 29, 2016 08:32AM

  Re: Well, I have to admit...

LARams17470August 29, 2016 08:40AM

  This just speaks to me of the unrealistic outlook of

GreatRamNTheSky538August 29, 2016 09:03AM

  Goff sitting is the outlier in recent history

promomasterj511August 29, 2016 09:18AM

  It is unrealistic

GreatRamNTheSky379August 29, 2016 09:25AM

  Re: It is unrealistic

LARams17432August 29, 2016 09:48AM

  CK is not good enough to make the playoffs

PHDram463August 29, 2016 10:05AM

  Re: CK is not good enough to make the playoffs

LARams17407August 29, 2016 10:14AM

  Re: CK is not good enough to make the playoffs

PHDram441August 29, 2016 10:39AM

  Rams gave up on CK before and now he is the better option than Goff ?

dodgerram438August 29, 2016 11:14AM

  Re: Rams gave up on CK before and now he is the better option than Goff ?

LARams17583August 29, 2016 11:16AM

  The Rams did NOT "give up" on CK before

PHDram597August 29, 2016 11:33AM

  Re: The Rams did NOT "give up" on CK before

dodgerram527August 29, 2016 11:39AM

  no one is saying he is "that" good

PHDram625August 29, 2016 11:50AM

  Re: no one is saying he is "that" good

dodgerram502August 29, 2016 11:56AM

  Re: no one is saying he is "that" good

PHDram423August 29, 2016 12:15PM

  Re: no one is saying he is "that" good

LARams17541August 29, 2016 12:00PM

  CK is an average QB

PHDram403August 29, 2016 12:16PM

  Re: CK is an average QB

Ram Fan Teacher586August 29, 2016 01:52PM

  Re: no one is saying he is "that" good

Ram Fan Teacher435August 29, 2016 01:50PM

  Re: +1

TonyHunter87409August 29, 2016 01:51PM

  Re: The Rams did NOT "give up" on CK before

SoCalRAMatic392August 29, 2016 11:46AM

  +1 nm

Ram Fan Teacher298August 29, 2016 01:54PM

  Re: CK is not good enough to make the playoffs

zn394August 29, 2016 05:29PM

  Re: CK is not good enough to make the playoffs

PHDram425August 29, 2016 05:35PM

  Re: CK is not good enough to make the playoffs

RamsFanSinceLA400August 29, 2016 05:24PM

  Re: CK is not good enough to make the playoffs

PSJRam437August 29, 2016 05:26PM

  Re: Your premise is not sound...

dzrams710August 29, 2016 06:11PM

  Re: Your premise is not sound...

LARams17363August 30, 2016 07:43AM

  Re: Your premise is not sound...

dzrams502August 30, 2016 08:10AM

  That's true,

JamesJM427August 29, 2016 10:17AM

  Re: That's true,

LARams17400August 29, 2016 10:27AM

  24 passes this preseason

PHDram415August 29, 2016 10:43AM

  Its not hypothetical nonsense when you see it

GreatRamNTheSky452August 29, 2016 10:46AM

  Re: Its not hypothetical nonsense when you see it

LARams17443August 29, 2016 11:08AM

  Re: Its not hypothetical nonsense when you see it

GreatRamNTheSky546August 29, 2016 12:26PM

  Re: Its not hypothetical nonsense when you see it

LARams17581August 29, 2016 12:31PM

  Re: Its not hypothetical nonsense when you see it

Rampage2K-390August 29, 2016 07:51PM

  Re: It is unrealistic

dodgerram427August 29, 2016 10:52AM

  Re: Goff sitting is the outlier in recent history

mikeguman771August 29, 2016 05:15PM

  Reach

PHDram469August 29, 2016 05:23PM

  A reach no matter who would have taken him

dodgerram427August 30, 2016 07:53AM

  but thats not the definition of a reach

PHDram321August 30, 2016 08:09AM

  Re: but thats not the definition of a reach

dodgerram605August 30, 2016 09:40AM

  IMHO he clearly was a huge reach

PHDram417August 30, 2016 10:15AM

  Re: IMHO he clearly was a huge reach

dodgerram503August 30, 2016 11:15AM

  Re: Goff sitting is the outlier in recent history

Rampage2K-489August 29, 2016 07:34PM

  Re: Goff sitting is the outlier in recent history

zn585August 30, 2016 09:11PM

  Re: This just speaks to me of the unrealistic outlook of

bigjimram21402August 29, 2016 11:35AM

  Or.....

PHDram425August 29, 2016 04:48PM

  Re: Are you saying....I agree Geoff could start

BumRap530August 29, 2016 07:53PM

  Re: Fisher needs to call BS on himself

napoli436August 29, 2016 07:01PM

  How many times are we gonna beat this dead horse???

Rampage2K-455August 29, 2016 07:29PM

  Re: Fisher needs to call BS on himself

Speed_Kills534August 30, 2016 02:47AM

  Re: Fisher needs to call BS on himself

LARams17454August 30, 2016 07:38AM

  the probelm with this is that

PHDram574August 30, 2016 08:02AM