that's basically what I said, as far as the term. But for me that doesn't make it useless... as long as I know what the person means I'm good to go. It can be discussed quite easily, IMO, with that mutual understanding. Even if the person I'm discussing it with has a different definition than I do it doesn't matter as long as I know where he's coming from.

I think we all agree that the Ram's make the 'most' of Keenum, from their perspective that is... which may be different than our personal opinions. The problem isn't there... it's that, for me anyway, the 'most' from Keenum ain't what the 'most' from Goff is... or soon won't be.

Are we talking past one another?