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Re: Can't both things be true?

July 24, 2023 03:56AM
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JimYoungblood53
Analytics show that the difference between an elite back and an average back is less than any other back suggesting that they are fungible...

The CBA does not allow the RBs to get paid what they are worth when they are at their peak.

Putting all your other (reasonable) points aside, these two statements seem contradictory. If analytics (or management or just basic market reality) have assessed that the running back position is less important than it once was, then how can it be said that they are not getting what they are worth?

Historically, RBs have been idolized, put up on a pedestal, receiving as much glory as any position aside from QB. They score a lot and then celebrate the score with (sometimes) over the top antics. Because RBs have historically received tons of glory and even worship from the fans, there's a whole lot of ego, chest-pounding and self-importance associated with that position, and probably an entitlement mentality that comes with that.

Guards are important in the NFL game, but they have almost never been viewed as a top-tier position and, thus, have typically been on the lower end of the pay scale. But they're not speaking out and demanding more. Why not? Because it's always been that way for that position. This new situation for RBs is just not something they're accustomed to and perhaps they're simply not ready to face the new reality.

Not sure it would make sense to try to artificially inflate the value of a position that the market has determined is otherwise. If you go down that road, it would probably open up a can of worms that could get really ugly.
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  Article: Top running backs plan a Zoom call for Saturday night

Ramsdude494July 22, 2023 01:08PM

  Don't be surprised

alyoshamucci242July 22, 2023 01:39PM

  Re: Don't be surprised

Ramsdude145July 22, 2023 01:44PM

  Re: Don't be surprised. Scenarios:

mtramfan128July 23, 2023 08:45PM

  If NFL were a free market they'd be able to

JimYoungblood53169July 22, 2023 01:46PM

  There is risk.......

roman18135July 22, 2023 01:52PM

  At least runnung backs cannot be replaced by AI

JimYoungblood53110July 22, 2023 01:59PM

  Replaced by AI?

NewMexicoRam104July 22, 2023 02:11PM

  Their careers would last longer

JimYoungblood53110July 22, 2023 02:21PM

  I get it

Stafford9120July 23, 2023 04:35PM

  And a an incentive for owners could be part of it

JimYoungblood5368July 23, 2023 04:49PM

  I might be behind the times but I am still in favor of picking a RB in the first round of the draft

Stafford963July 24, 2023 02:02AM

  Re: Article: Top running backs plan a Zoom call for Saturday night

mtramfan118July 22, 2023 02:44PM

  I'd would ask if people here had a son

JimYoungblood53114July 23, 2023 07:42AM

  Re: What I would tell my son - this is a long one

mtramfan97July 23, 2023 01:07PM

  Fair enough

JimYoungblood5374July 23, 2023 01:27PM

  Re: Fair enough, and moving forward

mtramfan78July 23, 2023 02:53PM

  That's correct IMO

JimYoungblood5358July 23, 2023 04:05PM

  Helluva post, mt…

Rams43111July 23, 2023 04:21PM

  Re: Helluva post, mt… Thanks.

mtramfan61July 23, 2023 06:28PM

  Re: I'd would ask if people here had a son

Old Goat52August 08, 2023 08:54AM

  Re: I'd would ask if people here had a son

JimYoungblood5352August 08, 2023 09:21AM

  This is just another consequence of the "identity groups" craze

RockRam141July 23, 2023 03:15AM

  great post RR nm

21Dog106July 23, 2023 04:02AM

  Can't both things be true?

JimYoungblood53114July 23, 2023 06:55AM

  Re: +1 (nm)

tomatosan101July 23, 2023 10:45AM

  Re: +2(nm)

BC Ramsfan101July 23, 2023 05:50PM

  Nice well thought out post

RantoulRam72July 23, 2023 01:35PM

  Incentives--makes a lot of sense

JimYoungblood5371July 23, 2023 02:04PM

  No, both things cannot be true.

RockRam91July 24, 2023 03:04AM

  Re: No, both things cannot be true.

LaDoc74July 24, 2023 03:29AM

  Have to agree to disagree, but respect your opinion.

JimYoungblood5390July 24, 2023 08:45AM

  Re: Can't both things be true?

JYB53July 24, 2023 03:56AM

  Because analytics are not real

JimYoungblood5375July 24, 2023 09:04AM

  Re: Because analytics are not real

JYB69July 24, 2023 01:08PM

  yeah, I get it, I brought up analytics because that isreason behind all this

JimYoungblood5375July 24, 2023 01:26PM

  Re: yeah, I get it, I brought up analytics because that isreason behind all this

JYB65July 24, 2023 02:20PM

  I knew someone is going to bring that up-Marshal Faulk addressed this

JimYoungblood5373July 24, 2023 02:32PM

  Re: I knew someone is going to bring that up-Marshal Faulk addressed this

JYB61July 25, 2023 04:14AM

  That's my point----

JimYoungblood5363July 25, 2023 06:23AM

  Re: That's my point----

JYB60July 25, 2023 11:43AM

  I think we are agreeing here.

JimYoungblood5353July 25, 2023 12:20PM

  Re: Because analytics are not real

AlbaNY_Ram53July 25, 2023 03:40AM

  Athletes please stop complaining and blaming

LaDoc96July 23, 2023 07:59PM

  Two thumbs up! (nm)

RockRam64July 24, 2023 03:05AM

  three thumbs up nm

21Dog65July 24, 2023 04:38AM

  4 thumbs up.........nm

Arkansas Ram52July 24, 2023 02:33PM

  It would be so foolish for ‘top RB’s’ to strike…

Rams4398July 23, 2023 04:58AM

  Article: Nick Chubb on running back discontent: “There’s really nothing we can do”

Ramsdude83July 23, 2023 01:34PM

  Re: Article: It just isn't FAIR! Is it, Florio?

mtramfan155July 23, 2023 07:39PM

  Good story

RamsWin92July 23, 2023 11:25PM

  Re: Good story

mtramfan87July 24, 2023 03:34PM

  At least understand the pay structure guards DO get paid, more than RBs

JimYoungblood5376July 24, 2023 04:18PM

  This thread should be an Example for the whole board

RantoulRam92August 08, 2023 08:32AM