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No, both things cannot be true.

July 24, 2023 03:04AM
You speak of RBs not being paid their value or worth. That is at the heart of the question. What is their value? According to who? In football they are paid according to whatever they can negotiate AFTER their first contract. You seem to say that RBs are to be valued in a different way than all other players or by legislation. This is what the rookie pay scale does....it legislates a value. it does not differentiate value according to contribution but rather by the speculation of this player's future worth based on when in the draft he is taken. This is something the players negotiated....they WANTED this....because vets saw it is a way to get a bigger piece of the pie for themselves. Now an identity group (RBs) is saying this should be different for them.

You speak of fairness. The CBA is the agreement to what is fair. Fair is entirely subjective. It was passed by the players, including RBs. It was agreed to by the owners. You can have personal issues with what they agreed to, but as with anything considering employer and employee it is a matter of compromise or it is with one-sided authoritarian rule. The formation of the Union itself thwarted what indeed had been authoritarian rule. Of course, we must also understand a couple of things: 1) no one is forced to play football for a living. 2) No football player is forced to be a RB.

RBs most definitely have a shorter period of productivity as a rule of thumb. Therefore, a smart team uses that period and moves on, not wanting to be tied to a long term contract when all the metrics say that it's usually a loser.

All choices in life have consequences. If one chooses to be a police officer there is a greater risk to life and limb than if one chooses to be a lawyer. If one chooses to be an airline pilot they have a largely disrupted family life in return for an enjoyable and profitable career. RBs have chosen a career position that can bring them the spotlight second only to the QB, and a very good living, but usually for a shorter period of time than players who chose other positions. These are choices that each much bear their own outcomes that will not be the same compared to their peers or to other professions.

If the Players Union decides that in the next contract they want to try to negotiate position by position, good luck. Because the first thing that will happen is that players will want a cap on QB pay that takes up so much of the teams' cap space, thereby depriving others of higher paychecks. Identity groups do NOT make for team players. Identity groups do NOT unite societies, they cause rupture to the greater society (or team). If the players want to create some kind of special rules for each identity group, they can try. But I doubt it will be the team owners who strongly dissent. The players will be at each others throats, just like our society is at each others throats as we break ourselves up into ever smaller identity groups.
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  Article: Top running backs plan a Zoom call for Saturday night

Ramsdude456July 22, 2023 01:08PM

  Don't be surprised

alyoshamucci222July 22, 2023 01:39PM

  Re: Don't be surprised

Ramsdude126July 22, 2023 01:44PM

  Re: Don't be surprised. Scenarios:

mtramfan111July 23, 2023 08:45PM

  If NFL were a free market they'd be able to

JimYoungblood53148July 22, 2023 01:46PM

  There is risk.......

roman18116July 22, 2023 01:52PM

  At least runnung backs cannot be replaced by AI

JimYoungblood5386July 22, 2023 01:59PM

  Replaced by AI?

NewMexicoRam84July 22, 2023 02:11PM

  Their careers would last longer

JimYoungblood5394July 22, 2023 02:21PM

  I get it

Stafford9100July 23, 2023 04:35PM

  And a an incentive for owners could be part of it

JimYoungblood5353July 23, 2023 04:49PM

  I might be behind the times but I am still in favor of picking a RB in the first round of the draft

Stafford946July 24, 2023 02:02AM

  Re: Article: Top running backs plan a Zoom call for Saturday night

mtramfan100July 22, 2023 02:44PM

  I'd would ask if people here had a son

JimYoungblood5397July 23, 2023 07:42AM

  Re: What I would tell my son - this is a long one

mtramfan81July 23, 2023 01:07PM

  Fair enough

JimYoungblood5356July 23, 2023 01:27PM

  Re: Fair enough, and moving forward

mtramfan59July 23, 2023 02:53PM

  That's correct IMO

JimYoungblood5347July 23, 2023 04:05PM

  Helluva post, mt…

Rams4387July 23, 2023 04:21PM

  Re: Helluva post, mt… Thanks.

mtramfan45July 23, 2023 06:28PM

  Re: I'd would ask if people here had a son

Old Goat34August 08, 2023 08:54AM

  Re: I'd would ask if people here had a son

JimYoungblood5330August 08, 2023 09:21AM

  This is just another consequence of the "identity groups" craze

RockRam125July 23, 2023 03:15AM

  great post RR nm

21Dog89July 23, 2023 04:02AM

  Can't both things be true?

JimYoungblood5398July 23, 2023 06:55AM

  Re: +1 (nm)

tomatosan85July 23, 2023 10:45AM

  Re: +2(nm)

BC Ramsfan80July 23, 2023 05:50PM

  Nice well thought out post

RantoulRam54July 23, 2023 01:35PM

  Incentives--makes a lot of sense

JimYoungblood5348July 23, 2023 02:04PM

  No, both things cannot be true.

RockRam59July 24, 2023 03:04AM

  Re: No, both things cannot be true.

LaDoc54July 24, 2023 03:29AM

  Have to agree to disagree, but respect your opinion.

JimYoungblood5368July 24, 2023 08:45AM

  Re: Can't both things be true?

JYB42July 24, 2023 03:56AM

  Because analytics are not real

JimYoungblood5356July 24, 2023 09:04AM

  Re: Because analytics are not real

JYB49July 24, 2023 01:08PM

  yeah, I get it, I brought up analytics because that isreason behind all this

JimYoungblood5353July 24, 2023 01:26PM

  Re: yeah, I get it, I brought up analytics because that isreason behind all this

JYB47July 24, 2023 02:20PM

  I knew someone is going to bring that up-Marshal Faulk addressed this

JimYoungblood5352July 24, 2023 02:32PM

  Re: I knew someone is going to bring that up-Marshal Faulk addressed this

JYB49July 25, 2023 04:14AM

  That's my point----

JimYoungblood5345July 25, 2023 06:23AM

  Re: That's my point----

JYB41July 25, 2023 11:43AM

  I think we are agreeing here.

JimYoungblood5335July 25, 2023 12:20PM

  Re: Because analytics are not real

AlbaNY_Ram36July 25, 2023 03:40AM

  Athletes please stop complaining and blaming

LaDoc77July 23, 2023 07:59PM

  Two thumbs up! (nm)

RockRam45July 24, 2023 03:05AM

  three thumbs up nm

21Dog47July 24, 2023 04:38AM

  4 thumbs up.........nm

Arkansas Ram35July 24, 2023 02:33PM

  It would be so foolish for ‘top RB’s’ to strike…

Rams4380July 23, 2023 04:58AM

  Article: Nick Chubb on running back discontent: “There’s really nothing we can do”

Ramsdude67July 23, 2023 01:34PM

  Re: Article: It just isn't FAIR! Is it, Florio?

mtramfan134July 23, 2023 07:39PM

  Good story

RamsWin75July 23, 2023 11:25PM

  Re: Good story

mtramfan70July 24, 2023 03:34PM

  At least understand the pay structure guards DO get paid, more than RBs

JimYoungblood5356July 24, 2023 04:18PM

  This thread should be an Example for the whole board

RantoulRam76August 08, 2023 08:32AM