QuoteRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond Sean McVay is being really oddly giddy about the increased possibility of Aaron Donald signing: “All jokes aside, there is a level of increased optimism. … Aaron, see you soon.” == QuoteVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore #Rams Sean McVay talking as optimistically and forcefully about an deal with Aaron Donald happening very soon McVay made it clear thingsby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
If the issue is safety then adding 2 games makes it worse not better. Just cut PS games down to 2 and leave it as a 16 game schedule.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram I actually agree with your assessment that Cooks will have a big year. But if he does it will be because his talent present McVay with opportunities to win games, not because McVay feels he has to justify Cooks' contract. My feeling is, this offenses needed a Cooks. He has a role. And what they paid him is what they had to pay him to keep him . I don't think it necessariby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSteve 2015 O line the last 4-5 games really came through--especially against Seattle on the road. 2007 was an injury meltdown, I had such high hopes when that year started. Yes, end of 2015, they stabilized and did fine. And yes, 2007 came off of those last games in 2006 when everything was clicking on offense.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSteveb) The O line: it is hard for me to understand their great success after 2007 to 2016 failures. I mean, Kromer looks like an incredible find.. Good post overall. But on that one point...the answer is simple. Look at the injury histories for most of those years. 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2014, even 2015 when it becomes both inexperience and injuries. In those years the Raby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteno name Third party arbitrators will not rule in favor of the players. There have been history of players trying and failing. We are saying the same things. dz is saying there is a history of players with poor claims. Donald will not be in that boat. It's moot either way because even if this all stretches into 2019 and he is tagged, odds are he would hold out and demand a trade. Itby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams Quotezn Quotedzrams Donald would present to the arbitrator that his impact looks more Von Miller-like than it does Cox/Casey-like. IOW, his impact is best defensive player in the league impact and just as much, if not more, than all other DEs/OLBs. Could the Rams credibly argue that's not true? I don't think so. This is all moot really. The Rams directly say they are paying him as aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax Quoteden-the-coach So with that I'm still betting he's an upper echelon QB! When you LOVE a QB you don't let him go for a mere 2nd round pick. Belichick isn't that generous. The story is Kraft said to trade him. BB wasn't behind it. ... I heard that story. Pure conjecture. Kraft is too smart to give up something of high value for much lower value. My bet isby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteno name Ever since Howie Long tried to argue that he was both DT/DL. Kevin Greene argued that he was at DL/LB. I have a hard time believing that the NFL with ever let it fly. Please don't talk about third party arbitrators. Once a precedent is set there will be chaos. Safeties want to be called LB's or what ever is being paid more. Dt's will become de's. Rb's will become Wr's. He's wiby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Quoteden-the-coach So with that I'm still betting he's an upper echelon QB! When you LOVE a QB you don't let him go for a mere 2nd round pick. Belichick isn't that generous. The story is Kraft said to trade him. BB wasn't behind it. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam If he's supposed to be a pass rush DE and not a DT, then 10 sacks is puny. This is the same kind of argument that was made for Jimmy Graham. That is, he ought to be paid like a WR and not like a TE because they split him out wide. Well, today, that's just part of the position for a TE. And, BTW, the argument didn't work. Can't have it both ways. Donald is either a super goodby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCROMWELL21 When taking into account their extensions. Beckhams contract was not an extension, but this years contract and the extension were added together on a new contract, so as to lesson the cap issues and because the Giants have cap room. Cooks is an actual extension of 5y and 80m, so the Rams can pay starting next year with their cap windfall. The guaranteed money is 20.5 for Coby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams Donald would present to the arbitrator that his impact looks more Von Miller-like than it does Cox/Casey-like. IOW, his impact is best defensive player in the league impact and just as much, if not more, than all other DEs/OLBs. Could the Rams credibly argue that's not true? I don't think so. This is all moot really. The Rams directly say they are paying him as a "best defenderby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
2018 is counted as the last year of his rookie contract. 2019 his 2nd contract kicks in. That's the 5y/81M. Saying he got 16 M a year (which is what people say) doesn't make sense if you fold the separate rookie contract into it. Saying he got 16 M a year means the 5 year contract is separate and different from the rookie contract. And that's how it's reported. Just a few examples:by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCROMWELL21 4.23m a year more than Cooks. Both receivers first two years are basically guaranteed after this year which they both are playing under their original contract terms. OBJ jumped over the receiver market the same way Gurley jumped over the RB market. Cooks wasn't the only WR getting around 16 M this year. It was pretty much every WR up for a 2nd contract. But AD's wholby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Holdouts are old. Thanks for doing the years on it and putting the number up in your title. It helps make the point. Heck Faulk held out in 99. The complaints about that action and his character stopped when the 99 season got going. Heck I mention Harrah and Youngblood in part because many of my fellow old Rams fans don't even remember that happened. A hold out is a protest of the contraby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram Three other possibilities for not wrapping things up where they might even agree on the amount: 1. They don't agree on structure. 2. They don't agree on the guarantee. 3. They don't agree on the length of the contract. Or They keep playing and replaying Aaron Donald highlights and just enjoy it too much to stop. .by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram Where have you read that the Rams don't want to pay AD market price? (I only ask cuz I haven't seen that ...) Well there's 3 explanations for why this is taking so long. In the absence of real info they're all equally valid. 1. Donald wants too much. 2. Rams are offering too little. 3. Both A lot of people assume #1 for some reason. But at this point for allby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSoCalRAMatic Neither. I want players who will play when under contract. So you would have cut Youngblood and Harrah when they held out in 1980?by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteoldschoolramfan You can run away from OLB's....But you can't run away from a guy coming straight up the gut. AD "wrecks" so many game plans, it's rediculous. I've said this before but here goes again. There are more good to very good outside rushers in the league than elite DTs. So if you have your outside rusher, you can only add an elite DT once a decade. But if you haveby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore Regarding latest report on #Rams/Aaron Donald: For obvious reasons the next seven to 10 days were always underlined as the “something’s gotta give” window. Sense I’m getting is it’s still too soon to predict where it will all end up, numbers wise. QuoteJoel Corry@corryjoel One has been engaging in negotiations seemingly forever while the other isn’t/hasby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn QuoteLos Angeles Lenny I love AD, but yikes You talking about the money? 22 M a year? That's lower than some good projections say he's worth (which is closer to 24 M). The guarantees? The last contract for a "best defender" type (Von Miller) was 70 M guaranteed. 3 years later it's reasonable to see more guaranteed money. My own guess all along was that it would be in thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quote3030 Don't quote me here, as I admit I'm tossing darts, but I THINK total guarantee means that he gets the 80 million but the team can cut him after a couple of years if they want. Fully means that he gets the entirely of the contract whether he gets cut or not. For instance, if its 6 years @ 22 million per, he gets the 132 million regardless. No. I can't nail the specifics yet but it doby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLos Angeles Lenny I love AD, but yikes You talking about the money? 22 M a year? That's lower than some good projections say he's worth (which is closer to 24 M). The guarantees? The last contract for a "best defender" type (Von Miller) was 70 M guaranteed. 3 years later it's reasonable to see more guaranteed money. My own guess all along was that it would be in the 80 M rby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCROMWELL21 Maybe he just sucks. People like Perez's story. But I have not seen one camp report, by a reporter or a fan, that indicates he was impressing people.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Heck the 2012-and-after Rams have one of the best records in the 3rd round we have ever seen. From an article: QuoteHere is one general manager’s bench mark for success: 1st and 2nd round picks: 56%, third round picks 35%. Those numbers are almost identical to the numbers I have compiled (combined 53.05% for 1st and 2nd rounders, 35% for third). So I feel comfortable using thiby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams Quotemax Snead is making a strong argument that Fisher just got in his way. I've been wrong about many other things but I've liked and defended Snead 100% of the time. I think eventually it will emerge that Snead is one of the elite GMs in the league. As a fellow "from the beginning" Snead defender, here's the thing about finding players like Kelly. If you look atby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Snead is making a strong argument that Fisher just got in his way. I don't know where that narrative comes from or why people think it's valid. The Rams drafted well from 2012-2016 or there would not be a winning team in town. And as we know just by looking at the facts, it was collaborative. Rams are drafting well, still, from 2017-2018. And it's still collaborative. The syby zn - RamsFootballFans.com