QuoteSoCalRAMatic We do know a few things. Demoff has admitted that their side did offer a contract that would make him the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. That would be north of 19 million. He also said that the two sides don't agree on his value. So if he's being offered 19,20 million a year or more and his side doesn't think that's enough then I'd be back to playing hardball. I wouldby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamsFanSinceLA QuoteRams43 Quotedzrams Those other sticking points are important 43 but for some reason, teams and players seem to get caught up primarily on the guaranteed money. That's the important number when factoring in risk of injury. Guaranteed is very important, dz. Perhaps the most important, and rightfully so. But isn’t that all the more reason for the Rams to remove it aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax He is experimenting with PS. Where is the reward vs the risk? He doesn’t like the odds of playing guys. Hav getting dinged changed things. There is absolutely nothing else going on here. Gruden had the same reaction to the Oakland game, and it's smart to see having both starting OTs out as not worth the risk for Goff. That's it, that's the extent of it. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax X They intended to play those 3 players at least. The rest of the starters will start. Was I wrong about those players playing? Yes. Were you wrong about why? Yes. You did not think it would be because of injuries, or at least didn't say so. Is any of this important? Meaning our little thing on this. No. Truth is I hadn't thought about it. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Explaining it away doesn’t work. lolby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Even if they offered him 24M, if the guaranteed money was $65M, that’s STILL a lowball.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax We ain’t seeing Gurley at all in PS. Highly unlikely to see Goff. And it's just circumstances. The intention was to play him. In terms of the Oakland game, Gruden did the exact same thing for the exact same reason. And either way my bet was more than Goff or Gurley. Quote. How many snaps will the starters have played at the end of pre-season this year? Will it be the samby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSoCalRAMatic And exactly how is it in your mind that 19 million a year for multiple years isn't enough? It's a disgusting amount of money. At this point I really don't want him to sign. He has a contract. If he doesn't get paid he makes $o.00. If he plays under his contract he still makes 6.8 million which should be enough for the rest of his life. I can't feel sorry for the insane greed beby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
== QuoteVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore Not a guarantee #Rams Jared Goff will play Saturday given tweak to Rob Havenstein’s abkle and Andrew Whitworth not playing according to Sean McVay Sean McVay told me the quiality of defense of #Texans and the scaled back playbook the #Rams would use w/O both starting OT’s would likely diminish any benefit to Jared even playing. Basically the riby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Totally worthless. But the folks enamored with a sports reporter celebrity hang on his every bloviated word. And how about yours of King? Worth posting twice? B)by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamUK And to say he's better than Brady is flat out ridiculous. But no one did say that. The term is "best defender." No one ever values those over qbs. Actually no one in the articles posted said anything about Brady. Rock brought Brady up but in doing so he just changed the conversation, which is about best defender. Not best PLAYER. Mack does belong on the list of leaby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam I do like Peter King; but I don't believe he has insight into this matter. Good. Cause he doesn't claim to. He was quite obviously just expressing an opinion. If anyone took him as saying more than that, that's on them. Because PK made it quite clear this is just his opinion -- a belief of his. That's all it is.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
He says I BELIEVE AD will report by labor day or soon after. Doesn't claim it's from sources, doesn't report it as fact. It's an opinion and that's all he says it is. And that's no big deal. Whether it;s Peter King or someone else. Just expressing an opinion is no big deal.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam How about Peppers? How about Von Miller? How about JJ Watt? How about Caliais Campbell? How about Sherman? How about Tom Brady? How about Julio Jones? Mack isn't a generational player; he's an exceptionally good player on a not very good team. Terms like "freak" and "generational" are simply hyperbolic and over used. and provides no useful assessment nor aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams 2) Is Donald a DT? Whether Donald is merely a DT versus a "pass rusher" or a DT versus "best defender category" is probably the critical issue. Sure the Rams are gonna argue he's merely a DT. . Good post overall which is always the case with you on this issue. I just wanted to completely nail shut this whole "best defender" thing. It's an uby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Nice post. I agree with all but your last paragraph, Rock. I still believe that when it’s crunch time we will see AD report for this season. If common sense/reality breaks out in AD’s camp, I see him signing an extension that both sides will call a win-win. It’s just a question of when, IMO. Might be this year, might be ‘19, might be ‘20, heck, might be ‘21. But it will happeby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams QuoteRams43 The writer has a point, not to mention 10 years of experience in negotiating contracts with player/agents. The offer is reportedly record setting for a D player. The exact numbers are unknown, but regardless of one’s agenda that is a market setter. So, FA or under contract, how can AD or his agents be insulted by such a beginning negotiating position? Bottom lineby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteThe $60 million guaranteed that Suh secured at signing is still the gold standard for all defensive players Quote, Broncos signed OLB Von Miller to a six-year, $114.5 million contract. The deal contains $70 million guaranteed, including $23 million in signing and roster bonus payments within the next 14 days.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotesnowman As I re-read the article, it seems that the author believes Donald wants a new contract that starts now; replacing the last year on his rookie contract. I don't believe that is the case and the author is wrong. The discussion from McVay and Demoff has always been about an extension to the current contract. And in fact that's exactly how Cooks's contract works. He finishes outby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSaguaro And if not, then he's just a rusher, or extra DL. They'd have to scheme to protect him against getting isolated. And does that make his use more predictable? Just wondering. Depends on what sets he's used in. I doubt they see him as an every down 3/4 OLB. My bet he's in on a lot of nickel packages where he's the 4th pass rusher. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDavid Deacon That is a great post with lots of good insights. I still think that what is missing is that AD is going to lose money by not signing a deal. The Rams have more leverage than is outlined and cane make the cost to AD even more costly than stated. For that reason I think a deal will get done as AD is shooting himself in the foot by not compromising. There are a lot of asby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam I cannot speak from and NFL contract world; but I can from a high level corporate salary contract world. Brandt lives in the real world Enh. He demonstrably got his facts wrong. Trying to fluff him up doesn't answer that charge. He has far less idea what he's talking about when it comes to this one issue than the well-informed fans here, among other places. Regardlessby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram I dunno. Seems like the Rams paid FA money (or more) to Cooks, Gurley, and Havenstein. It's just misleading language and the writer is guessing. Both Cooks and Hav got more or less exactly what guys at their position were getting for 2nd contracts in 2018. 16 and 8 M (for ROT). Gurley we know, they started a new category. My bet is no one in the AD negotiations usedby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam_Ruler As if the NFL doesn't have a salary cap? If it were even NBA level, where you could go over your cap and pay a luxury tax, then I'd understand. The NFL literally says " this is the maximum that you can spend on an entire team" and the Rams have to consider that when signing players The wealth of the owner directly relates to how much of a bonus a player gets and how mucby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams QuoteAlbaNY_Ram An offer from another team would impact 2019 and beyond. The Rams have over $58M in cap space in 2019. Any offer AD gets from another team will fit under the Rams' cap. with the Hav extension they are probably right under $50M. And they have a ton of free agents to address besides Donald. It would be very bad for those plans for another team to dictate the struby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams QuoteSUretHing Not sure why anyone wants to emulate that. I think people are talking about emulating spreading the money around, I.e., not paying any super star salaries except for QB. Even if they got a good return for Jones, I don't see that as a viable system for any team that doesn't have the two critical pieces that the Pats have. That's exactly right. There is no "Pby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quote. Coach Jon Gruden was dumbfounded in April when the NFL scheduled two games against the Los Angeles Rams, one a second exhibition and the other a season opener, 23 days apart. His response was to rest 21 key players, including 15 on offense, for a 19-15 preseason loss that featured a snoozefest start. === Quote. Jon Gruden sits 15 offensive starters because Raiders open with Raby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Your take was right .The starters played a series at best, at most 6 snaps. Is that more than the Rams starters have played? Well it depends if you count the live scrimmages, 1s v. 1s, the Rams ran against the Ravens for 2 days in Baltimore. SNAP COUNTS, RAIDERS V. LIONS: ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
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QuoteJamesJMYou and ZN are arguing, insisting actually, that the Oakland game ends the debate about McVay's strategy for starters in preseason OR at least not in the least indicative of what his strategy may be. (IOW, it tells us nothing) - No on the red. I wouldn't say it ends any debate. It's just an exception. More yes than no on the blue. I would say that as an exception it does not teby zn - RamsFootballFans.com