QuoteAlbaNY_Ram I'll add a 4th thing: If the pass was thrown to Cooks' right instead of right at him it would have been a TD. (The DB wouldn't have been able to get to Cooks if he had to run another 10 yds to get there ...). He saw in a split second that the coverage on Cooks was broken. That was a sudden thing and not expected. At what point in seeing that then stepping up and throwinby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamBill Quotezn QuoteRamBill He was watching the All-22 version. The NFL Films view from Inside the NFL shows it clearly. Flutter ball and it hung up. He could have thrown it more on a line for sure....and not of frozen rope Here it is--- at 20:30 Not the important thing. That ball was thrown on the basis of seeing at the last second that the Patz had blown the coveraby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamBill He was watching the All-22 version. The NFL Films view from Inside the NFL shows it clearly. Flutter ball and it hung up. He could have thrown it more on a line for sure....and not of frozen rope Here it is--- at 20:30 Not the important thing. That ball was thrown on the basis of seeing at the last second that the Patz had blown the coverage. It would be imposby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamBill ....they have different angles because they are using NFL Films footage. The late pass was a real flutter ball....you can really see it on their coverage. They have a close up of it as it's fluttering through the air. If any one of these things had happened with that pass, it's a TD 1) A tight spiral 2) An earlier release 3) A higher velocity, flatter pass. Unforby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotewaterfield Studies confirm that we rarely change our mind in the face of facts. Instead we search for a fact that will confirm our already pre-existing belief system. Other studies have show if we are faced with several views of-say an accident-we tend to believe the last one we saw. I didn't claim to have the true facts others must hear. I said this--- QuoteHaving said all that...Iby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills or be a threat :lol3 He had inflammation of the knee. That comes from a cause. When was that fixed or cleared up? You can have a condition like that and be tabbed as able to play, and still not be your regular 100% self. So again...when did whatever caused the inflammation go away? ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
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QuoteSpeed_Kills I think for me it’s that he has looked so bad when things don’t go well I mean he completely falls apart Is that true? He didn't come back against the Saints twice on the road? (Though they lost one). They also came back from down late in 2 tough wins over Seattle. Green Bay too. Whatever the 2017 Vikes game, and the 2018 Chi, Phil, and Patz games have in common, Iby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamBill QuoteRam49 I can't agree. In fact, I just attached something (I can't get the photo to link) where I believe that our multi million dollar WR should have caught two dropped TDs. That isn't to take away from a down night.....but he got pressured on over 70% of the snaps. Bad play calling and bad line play added to his bad night. But I'm sure not thrilled with Cooks droppingby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills Remember how the board was buzzing after that Vikings TNF game? Man Goff was on fire...those touchdown passes were spectacular... the Vikings defense had nothing for the Rams that night Gurley was mostly a non factor in the run game. Its like McVay had studied the Vikings all offseason and just leveled that defense It was truly a Warneresque type game... Flash forwaby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram Whitworth's salary next year is $10M, there's a roster bonus of $750k, and another bonus labeled 'other' that's also worth $750K. So if he comes back next season he stand to pocket $11.5M. His cap hit would be $16,659,168, but $5,159,168 of that is the prorated signing bonus. He was paid that money already but it counts against the cap this year. (Details: he was paid a $5Mby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDESERT RAM Quotesfbayram Gurley’s Comment about McVay playing checkers while Belichick played chess is all too real. Had trouble playing video but would like to know where this quote came from? Desert Ram I think he meant ED said that. I can't imagine a universe in which Gurley would say that. ....by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 That's what he makes if he returns. And considering he says he feels good physically and still lobes the game I think he'll be back. You never know though. He's been the most consistent, productive OL of this decade. 16.659 M. Also if he does retire it's 5+ M in dead money and a savings of 11.5 M. .....by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams Quotezn You see one part I see another. We also can't have a discussion if someone like me says "no qb plays well under that much pressure" and I am met with "why are you denying Goff played poorly." Meanwhile you get nothing, IMO, out of defending Harris. He's not worth it. I like RB's take on that: I agree with you that what you see is an issue too.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 If they lose Saffold- and I hope they don't- I'm confident Noteboom can start at LG. And if the long term plan is him taking over for Whitworth at LT (and my assumption is he plays in 2019), then that may be a good transitional step. Noteboom could also play RG if they either want to make RG an open competition with Blythe or Blythe slides over the center. And center is the big queby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams How can we have a real debate on Goff if when I say "Goff played horrible" someone comes back with "you're a Goff hater!" or "you've had wrong opinions before!"? You see one part I see another. We also can't have a discussion if someone like me says "no qb plays well under that much pressure" and I am met with "why are you denyingby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam_Ruler Sure thing. PFF has a weekly podcast. It was the just recent one, a super bowl recap. Thank you.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams QuoteRAMbler EVERYONE is saying Goff had a bad game.... "BUT" he is NOT the only reason the Rams O was bad. Just wow..... I'm just pointing out that I see an incredibly high level of defensiveness when discussing him. And literally NO ONE is saying he's the only reason the Rams O was bad. And "defensiveness" is a psychologizing subjective move whose vby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams Quotezn Quotedzrams Quoteden-the-coach Was bad in his first couple of starts with Cal, became a first overall pick. Was bad in his first several starts with the Los Angeles Rams became an all pro...Was bad in his first Super Bowl start????? First I gotta say, man people are so defensive about Goff. It's like people can't say that Goff played badly. And when people point that out itby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam_Ruler Said that Goff and Brady were both bad and that the witch Hunt on Goff is misleading. Said that Mcvay did him no favors in his gameplan. Pats were gonna send heat and defend 11 personnel better than anyone else in the league, yet Mcvay continued to run long developing plays instead of screens and short passes. Pats offense only adjusted late in the game which led to a touchdown. Raby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams Quoteden-the-coach Was bad in his first couple of starts with Cal, became a first overall pick. Was bad in his first several starts with the Los Angeles Rams became an all pro...Was bad in his first Super Bowl start????? First I gotta say, man people are so defensive about Goff. It's like people can't say that Goff played badly. And when people point that out it means the poster doby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteNewMexicoRam (just taking a brief break from saving lives) But I think the throw was off, should have been to Goff's left and it probably would have been completed. Doesn't matter. It wasn't and the Rams lost. That pass wasn't the reason for the loss, just one play. The team didn't play well and McVay was outcoached, but look who they played. As I said before, this is a great timby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedodgerram Quotezn QuoteNewMexicoRam That's all. In terms of was that play a "poor throw"? I think that's badly exaggerated and entirely beside the point. It was good enough to be a TD if not for the especially brilliant play by the Patz DB. The idea that every pass has to be perfect strikes me as just irrelevant. The idea that the DB's play on the pass is not worth mentioninby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteden-the-coach Was bad in his first couple of starts with Cal, became a first overall pick. Was bad in his first several starts with the Los Angeles Rams became an all pro...Was bad in his first Super Bowl start????? Frequently forgotten in all this. His first year in Cal their OL was a wreck. In 2016 the Rams OL had fallen apart. (And Gurley was not himself---McGinnis said he was nby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteNewMexicoRam Goff should have thrown more to his left, leading Cooks toward his right, away from the charging defender. TD written all over that one. Poor throw. Yes, this SB was a real lost opportunity to end the Patriots dynasty, just like 36 was lost. I am not sure where people get these kinds of nitpicky things from. At what point during the throw would any qb realize that aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteNewMexicoRam That's all. Then I made my observation. I didn't say you had to clarify your argument for me, because I still don't follow it in regards to the conversation. That's ok. I've got to go and save some lives now. It's there NM. You can follow it if you want to. Conversations are not strict and linear. They include people raising new points. As I did. In terms of waby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 If he get stronger, refine pass rushing technique and can improve his first step get-off (go workout with Donald...) he's a guy that could go from 300 to 600 snaps on the DL next year. It would be nice. Lot of ifs though.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteNewMexicoRam But you totally lost me with that argument. I think Goff just threw a bad pass there. Not a good time to have a bad game. But I am convinced Goff is our franchise QB and will have better odds once Bilichik/Brady are gone. Very important to me that people respond to what is actually said. For example you said I lost you. So what are the chances you responded to what I realby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills Nobody That’s something you are coming up with Okay fair enough on the one play theme. But that's not all I said Speed. I also alluded to this. QuoteBill Polian:. I estimated the Pats line was winning at the snap of the ball about 70% of the time, which is amazing. In terms of people not reading, do you know how many times I;'ve brought that up, and said no qb plays weby zn - RamsFootballFans.com