And plenty of rookie qbs have sat since 94. Ones that worked out nicely. Including McNair, Brees, Palmer, Rivers, Eli (for half the season), and Rodgers. The fallacy comes when people say, you're behind until you start getting reps. Not true. Rookies are learning a lot more than just taking reps can teach. So there's good reasons to break it into stages. Learn the offense, to be a pro, lifeby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills They have an outstanding defense that was literally carrying that team. The Vikings team just isn't all that great. They have an outstanding coaching staff and fantastic defense but because they have a bad offense they are not normally capable of playing from behind. They have no run game, an average at best QB, a bad oline, and garbage WRs. Thing is before the season peopleby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteBumRap I think that its hard to believe some of the winning coaches in the leagues have great staffs and seem to be able to work around personnel and also coach them up are not doing things differently than Jeff and are more in tune to their teams. . Throughout NFL history many, many qbs have developed by sitting as rookies. Why are you acting like this is such a unique situation.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLesBaker Because he looked OK with other QB's. And he has SB rings by the way. It's Bradford. He's just not that all that good. OL. They lost 2 tackles and now a guard is banged up and so is another tackle. Bradford always looked good when he had both * a relatively healthy OL * a running threat (right now they are 30th in rushing) But then most qbs play worse without thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePaulButcher59 And to think that a few weeks ago many were saying they were possibly the best team in the NFL. Crazy league. Have to think Philly exposed Norv Turner`s offense. Lets see if Turner and Bradford can turn this around. It's the old Bradford nemesis, a shaky and/or damaged OL. 6 sacks last week, so far 4 (in 3 quarters) this week. That's a 15.6% sack percentage in 2 games (at thiby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteferragamo79 lot of money tied to bonuses now a days. For example, Aaron Rodgers got 5 years for 7.7 Million.....Justs Goff's signing bonus was &18.6 million and deal is for 4 years. Well with an extension to 5 years. I didn't look before writing this, but it seems to me that in recent years, most rookie qbs started because they were taken high in the draft by rebuilding teamsby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLesBaker Talking Head B says People are saying/We are hearing that the Rams are discouraged about Goff and he isn't able to pick things up The issue is here. And it hasn't been addressed. The first blogger says, 2 guys in the league told me what Rams coaches really think about Mannion and Goff. Well how would they know. Meanwhile there are LA reporters who can attend practices,by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteClassicalwit You're making too much sense, ZN. Cut it out. I;m sorry.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
I don't know this for a fact but my bet is Cal also did not have the qb adjust protections, respond to blitzes by dialing up an audible, or for that matter react to sight adjustments. He went from Intro to Science into Advanced Astrophysics. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams_81 but of course he played behind Bret Farve, not Case Keenum. I think Goff as a chance to be a good player, but it will take much longer with this coaching staff than most others. The history shows young players develop slower with a Fisher coached team than other teams if the player is an offensive player. I liked Goff's interview. But if Goff is as good as Aaron Rogersby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 You know, the All World LOT for the Cowboys? The announcers showed 4 clips of Smith blocking an opponent in this game by way of illustrating how and why he's considered such a dominant player. In three of these replays, we saw Smith throwing his opponent to the ground at the end of his block by using his superior hand and arm strength. Like a rag doll. Some posters have said thaby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotezn QuoteRams43 Isn't winning the bottom line, zn? Did you miss that memo? Lol. You're praising Wentz though. Wentz lost. It was that kind of a game where one thinks that it's a shame that either team (or QB) had to lose. I mean, it DID have to go to overtime, after all. And for the record, I thought I was praising both Wentz and Prescott. Wentz however would be crby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedodgerram Never liked the trade up to begin with. Imagine DP plus all those draft picks with the Rams. Pretty sure we would sit better than 3-4 and with a brighter future. Go Rams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I liked DP too. But I also like Goff and don't mind the trade-up at all. .by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Isn't winning the bottom line, zn? Did you miss that memo? Lol. You're praising Wentz though. Wentz lost.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Man, what a treat! Two rookie QB's that sure don't play like rookies. Back and forth all game long and into overtime. Some seriously exciting play from both kids. A bright future for both, I'm sure. Would love to have either wearing horns. Sigh... Goff will be as good as or better than both. So I don't sweat that one. I don't watch other teams with qb envy because Iby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteHazlet Hacksaw That was a big mistake. Gurley showed some signs of life. I agree, though, with a bit of a caveat. We don't really know a lot of the time what was called and what was an audible based on the defensive look. They check into and out of run plays all the time. ..by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteoldschoolramfan Rams Plan A.........Run Gurley and have QB be able to rely on run game. Rams Plan B......After establishing a Run Game, play action pass. Well, until Plan A works , there's no Plan B. I think the Rams and Goff are on hold until this running game is going in high gear. Why? Because ANY QB will get pummeled when a Defense can just put their ears back and go crush theby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteoldschoolramfan how complicated can our offense be? Right? A lot. First off don't underestimate this offense. If you look at the last 5 games (cause they improved dramatically after the 1st 2) they are high in yards per reception, 3rd down conversions, completion percentage etc. What's stalled is the running game. Either way, the Rams offense includes a fairly heavy dose of audibles, sightby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDeadpool not you, I was responding to his post. As far as bad drafting, the Spags era was mind numbing, linehan was awful and martz...well...Trung, do I need to say more. So yeah, they are not as bad as previous years, but they need to draft better because windows for winning in the NFL are small and you just don't have 4 to 5 years to develop LTs and WRs and OGs anymore. See thoughby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteBlue and Gold Quotezn Fan blogitorial stuff Will Reeve of Rams Wire cites John McMullen of FanRagSports.com and TodaysPigskin.com as a source. Hard to imagine anyone taking it seriously. Honestly .please. Just admit what is plain. You mocked Reeve for using McMullen as a source. Lol. McCullen was not a good source, particularly when you actually examine the statement. Iby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDeadpool QuoteRams_81 people expectations on hits with draft picks are not realistic. Love to see a percentage of hits by round by team across the league to put more realistic expectations. I do know the foundation of Quick Gurley Quinn and Austin is something that many teams do not have. I do know that 3 of these 4 are down a little right now, but I believe that will change. Quickby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteBumRap Is not Fisher's blunder as much as being content to field an offensive on the premis he could sort of plug and play anyone around Todd Gurley. He also gambled the future of the franchise to the tutelage of understudies and not the grand direction of an offensive mastermind. Those are undeniable and hard to classify as mere speculation. Being ready never conotates success only thatby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteBlue and Gold Quotepoplarbluffman yep...some people just have to shoot the messenger I considered Mannion a solid #2 pick and just another bit of info about Goff's lack of development..I started that Goff bust? thread for a reason...something is up. I think it's good to consider the source, but to trash someone who has some credentials isn't smart. The person is not in question. Oneby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram Could be that Goff is throwing the ball well, but still not up to speed calling protections, making pre-snap reads, audibling to the right play, and/or going thru progressions fast enough. (And I don't know if any of that is true - just trying to explain how 'looking good' in practice might not translate directly to 'ready to start'.) Yes, as long as bloggers are going to preseby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCraigMatson Speculation is harmless and routine here and I don't have a cause anti Goff for the record don't go down the wrong rail. I'm not legitimizing the accuracy of the source either or at least that's not my attempt in my comments. Merely throwing out some possible reasons besides sensational journalism. Could Mannions agent be talking to staff on another NFL team and that persby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDeadpool so I am absolutely clear on this. If the Rams drafted 11 offensive players, and all 11 started and they were also the worst starter at their position according to whatever metric you want to use, you would consider them all hits? Because to me that seems too low of a bar. Even for a team that has been as bad as the Rams for as long as they have been. but then again, I have beeby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotezn QuoteRams43 Two different NFL sources told TodaysPigskin.com that the Rams coaching staff remains far more comfortable with Mannion as the next option and if this was a vacuum, Mannion would be the backup on game days, and the one preparing to take over the Rams offense after the next egregious Keenum throw. I've asked this before about this very article without getting oneby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDeadpool the Rams drafting on the offensive side of the ball is awful, terrible and downright pathetic. You qualify a hit as a starter, that's a pretty low bar for a team that does very little in free agency. i mean, someone HAS to start. Someone HAS to play significant minutes. That doesn't mean they are helping their team win. Robinson starts, but is he helping his team win? Is he hby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDeadpool because he has a different grading system then you or I. its obvious I have a different system then you, so either you are saying mine is wrong or Jemach isn't wrong afterall because everyone evaluates drafts and draft picks differently. I didn't just say you used different criteria. That's only part of the equation. Unless you get the entire equation you're not really respondiby zn - RamsFootballFans.com