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Re: why do you give this any credibility? It's all opinion

October 30, 2016 01:47PM
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CraigMatson
Speculation is harmless and routine here and I don't have a cause anti Goff for the record don't go down the wrong rail.
I'm not legitimizing the accuracy of the source either or at least that's not my attempt in my comments.
Merely throwing out some possible reasons besides sensational journalism.
Could Mannions agent be talking to staff on another NFL team and that person be wagging his tongue?
I'm not doing anything but hypothosizing ok.
And I'm not saying the original message is doing anything but trying to promote Mannions in some way.
Doesn't even have to originate from a Ram coach to get legs.

For the record, the writer in question was down on Goff before the draft and thought Wentz was the top pick. He didn't think Goff was ready enough for the NFL, certainly not compared to Wentz.

But see yeah we can have all sorts of speculations and opinions.

His claim, however, that Rams coaches like Mannion better than Goff is not presented as an opinion. It's presented as a fact. According to you it's okay as opinion. Alright. But it is not presented that way.

So actually I am not really talking about Goff, or Mannion, or even what the Rams coaches think.

I am talking about how a writer presents a case. How he writes it. And he is not talking the way you are talking. He is claiming he has sources that speak to the issue so that what he is offering is fact.

In my experienced, actual real reporters and analysts are more careful than that. He's sloppy. I just simply don't count him claiming a "source" on a topic where we're presumably seeing inside the Rams coaches's heads as legit. And in fact if there were such real scuttlebut out there why does this blogger catch wind of it yet dozens of (combined) LA reporters and national sports reporters haven't caught wind of it? In fact some are saying the opposite.

I am just saying the writer shows his amateurism. Personally I am not going to give that any credence by speculating what maybe he could have heard. He screwed up his real job, which is to present fact as fact and opinion as opinion, and being very careful about what gets stated as fact.

To me on that you apply the same standard you would demand if journalists were writing about YOU. So if they were, how would you feel about this statement: "although he has never been actually convicted of domestic violence, sources in law enforcement I know say that some local detectives in his jurisdiction think his wife thinks he should be."

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2016 01:51PM by zn.
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Rams43913October 30, 2016 08:01AM

  Well that was depressing

RFIP313October 30, 2016 08:20AM

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CraigMatson449October 30, 2016 08:30AM

  why do you give this any credibility? It's all opinion

zn477October 30, 2016 08:48AM

  Re: why do you give this any credibility? It's all opinion

CraigMatson351October 30, 2016 09:02AM

  If it enhances your opinion

Hazlet Hacksaw521October 30, 2016 09:09AM

  Re: why do you give this any credibility? It's all opinion

zn400October 30, 2016 09:14AM

  Re: why do you give this any credibility? It's all opinion

CraigMatson338October 30, 2016 10:21AM

  Re: why do you give this any credibility? It's all opinion

zn332October 30, 2016 01:47PM

  Exactly ZN he's a blogger and these guys treat him like he's legit

GreatRamNTheSky334October 30, 2016 09:14AM

  First year is not an indicator with greatness and QBs regardless

merlin422October 30, 2016 09:43AM

  Re: why do you give this any credibility? It's all opinion

Rams43329October 30, 2016 11:54AM

  It's not the opinion part its the massive amount of supposition

LesBaker327October 30, 2016 12:27PM

  Re: It's not the opinion part its the massive amount of supposition

Classicalwit350October 30, 2016 12:50PM

  Re: why do you give this any credibility? It's all opinion

zn388October 30, 2016 12:42PM

  I'm sorry but I have been hearing just the opposite

GreatRamNTheSky380October 30, 2016 09:12AM

  Re: I'm sorry but I have been hearing just the opposite

Rams43336October 30, 2016 12:02PM

  Re: I'm sorry but I have been hearing just the opposite

AlbaNY_Ram477October 30, 2016 01:39PM

  Re: I'm sorry but I have been hearing just the opposite

zn251October 30, 2016 01:55PM