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Re: It ain't me...

November 12, 2020 02:36PM
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JamesJM
CDC

Here's a quote from the article:

"The coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic has been associated with mental health challenges related to the morbidity and mortality caused by the disease and to mitigation activities, including the impact of physical distancing and stay-at-home orders.* Symptoms of anxiety disorder and depressive disorder increased considerably in the United States during April–June of 2020, compared with the same period in 2019 (1,2). To assess mental health, substance use, and suicidal ideation during the pandemic, representative panel surveys were conducted among adults aged ≥18 years across the United States during June 24–30, 2020. Overall, 40.9% of respondents reported at least one adverse mental or behavioral health condition, including symptoms of anxiety disorder or depressive disorder (30.9%), symptoms of a trauma- and stressor-related disorder (TSRD) related to the pandemic† (26.3%), and having started or increased substance use to cope with stress or emotions related to COVID-19 (13.3%). The percentage of respondents who reported having seriously considered suicide in the 30 days before completing the survey (10.7%) was significantly higher among respondents aged 18–24 years (25.5%), minority racial/ethnic groups (Hispanic respondents [18.6%], non-Hispanic black [black] respondents [15.1%]), self-reported unpaid caregivers for adults§ (30.7%), and essential workers¶ (21.7%). Community-level intervention and prevention efforts, including health communication strategies, designed to reach these groups could help address various mental health conditions associated with the COVID-19 pandemic.

Thanks for providing the information. It's very sobering. But I interpret it as being an advisory of what could happen given the increase in stressors due to the virus and state-sponsored mitigation efforts. Something that officials need to be aware of, but not necessarily a definite pre-cursor.

But this is where I BELIEVE zn's comments (in part) may have relevance. Despite these quantifiable stressors that could lead to an increase in suicide...they haven't materialized to such an anticipated level - which is a good thing.

Now, there could be a variety of reasons for this. But he (zn) seems to be arguing that the most severe government-sponsored mitigation efforts (i.e. strict stay-at-home orders, no gatherings, etc.) are no longer in place and haven't been in place for some time now (though I heard that Chicago may be revisiting their stay-at-home order soon). The easing of these types of restrictions (which only lasted for, what...60 days in the first place?) has likely eased those increased stressors. Whereas some at-risk individuals may contemplate suicide due to a lack of social interaction, they don't seem to be just because they have to wear a mask in Walmart; get their Starbucks coffee through the drive-thru; or, attend church outside in a parking lot. Businesses and institutions seem to have adapted for the most part to virus-mitigation efforts...and so have the people who might be at-risk to mental health challenges.

The last point that I'll raise deals with zn's comments on leadership. It's fairly clear that national leaders knew the severity this virus could bring to the country back in January of this year. If there was huge concern about how it might affect mental health, why wasn't there a ramping up of the "community-level intervention and prevention efforts, including health communication strategies, designed to reach these groups..." that "...could help address various mental health conditions associated with the Covid-19 pandemic" that was mentioned in the CDC information you posted? Same goes for robust financial assistance to businesses and individuals to keep them afloat?

If this country's leaders can spend billions/trillions to keep Wall St., General Motors, the airlines, and cruise ship industries alive...why can't they for people facing increased issues due to the opioid problem? The "increase in suicides" argument appears to be a purely political one with no current basis in reality.
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  (new thread) COVID-19 Hospitalizations Are Surging.

zn918November 10, 2020 04:25PM

  Ain't no surprise here is it ?

waterfield191November 10, 2020 04:56PM

  agreed (nm)

zn185November 10, 2020 06:39PM

  It's going to just have to take it's course

NewMexicoRam195November 11, 2020 10:35AM

  Re: It's going to just have to take it's course

waterfield199November 11, 2020 11:06AM

  I don't think that's what he meant at all....

JamesJM171November 11, 2020 11:09AM

  Re: I don't think that's what he meant at all....

waterfield181November 11, 2020 11:24AM

  The suicides aren't the virus

NewMexicoRam178November 11, 2020 12:33PM

  Re: The suicides aren't the virus

waterfield179November 11, 2020 02:46PM

  there is no evidence of some "suicide" binge

zn195November 11, 2020 04:59PM

  no it's not, zn....

JamesJM258November 11, 2020 05:15PM

  there are studies demonstrating no rise in suicides

zn193November 11, 2020 08:06PM

  Yes, right, zn

NewMexicoRam196November 11, 2020 06:28PM

  Re: Yes, right, zn

zn175November 11, 2020 08:11PM

  I'm speaking about COVID cases and deaths

NewMexicoRam198November 12, 2020 08:14AM

  Re: Yes, right, zn

waterfield185November 11, 2020 08:14PM

  I ask the other side

NewMexicoRam184November 12, 2020 03:00AM

  Re: I ask the other side

waterfield180November 12, 2020 08:20AM

  Many suicides come from economic concerns

NewMexicoRam182November 12, 2020 08:55AM

  This is almost impossible to discuss...

JamesJM199November 12, 2020 09:02AM

  Re: This is almost impossible to discuss...

zn215November 12, 2020 09:55AM

  Re: This is almost impossible to discuss...

JamesJM177November 12, 2020 11:27AM

  Re: This is almost impossible to discuss...

zn360November 12, 2020 11:54AM

  It ain't me...

JamesJM192November 12, 2020 12:06PM

  Re: It ain't me...

ramBRO186November 12, 2020 12:21PM

  Re: It ain't me...

JamesJM176November 12, 2020 12:25PM

  Re: It ain't me...

ramBRO221November 12, 2020 02:36PM

  Re: It ain't me...

zn207November 13, 2020 04:55AM

  An interesting point here is...

JamesJM196November 12, 2020 12:39PM

  Re: An interesting point here is...

zn183November 12, 2020 12:59PM

  Correlation vs Causation vs Coincidence

waterfield211November 12, 2020 02:42PM

  Good reply...

JamesJM174November 12, 2020 02:57PM

  sigh

zn284November 12, 2020 01:08PM

  No, that's double speak....

JamesJM185November 12, 2020 01:10PM

  Re: No, that's double speak....

zn205November 12, 2020 01:26PM

  You're doing it every post you make...

JamesJM183November 12, 2020 01:27PM

  Re: You're doing it every post you make...

zn194November 12, 2020 01:33PM

  You're deluded. (nm)

JamesJM169November 12, 2020 01:34PM

  more of the same

zn173November 12, 2020 01:41PM

  I could say the same...

JamesJM171November 12, 2020 01:42PM

  Re: I could say the same...

zn187November 12, 2020 01:48PM

  What?!?!?!? No one is arguing for lockdowns?!?!?!

NewMexicoRam199November 12, 2020 01:40PM

  gee I posted that 4 or 5 times and you just now caught it

zn247November 12, 2020 01:52PM

  Wow, zn

NewMexicoRam172November 12, 2020 03:14PM

  Re: Wow, zn

zn196November 12, 2020 07:59PM

  Re: Yes, right, zn

zn176November 12, 2020 03:31AM

  Let me give you another statistic

NewMexicoRam263November 12, 2020 04:30AM

  Re: Let me give you another statistic

zn180November 12, 2020 09:47AM

  C'mon, zn

NewMexicoRam166November 12, 2020 11:05AM

  Re: C'mon, zn

zn201November 12, 2020 11:10AM

  Zn, your last statement isn't even medically scientific

NewMexicoRam196November 12, 2020 01:03PM

  hunh?

zn172November 12, 2020 01:40PM

  Read more of JAMA

NewMexicoRam176November 12, 2020 01:42PM

  not some articles you agree with out of tons, consensus

zn196November 12, 2020 01:51PM

  So you have read ALL the JAMA articles on covid

PHDram177November 12, 2020 06:58PM

  what is the international scientific consensus

zn216November 12, 2020 07:57PM

  Working for the Fire Dept, I know there is collateral damage.

Ramgator213November 12, 2020 05:48AM

  I'm with you

NewMexicoRam167November 12, 2020 06:24AM

  I DO understand that it IS a concern.

Ramgator186November 12, 2020 06:59AM

  Of course.

NewMexicoRam207November 12, 2020 08:08AM

  and what you have there

zn193November 12, 2020 10:03AM

  Sorry but the media has done a CRAPPY job of toning down the hysteria.

Ramgator190November 12, 2020 10:39AM

  who is talking about "the media"

zn198November 12, 2020 11:17AM

  Re: who is talking about "the media"

ramBRO180November 12, 2020 11:59AM

  Negative!

Ramgator178November 12, 2020 01:58PM

  wait sorry

zn194November 12, 2020 02:16PM

  My reply was not about YOU!

Ramgator179November 12, 2020 02:04PM

  Re: My reply was not about YOU!

zn180November 12, 2020 02:21PM

  It has been up and down all year.

Ramgator196November 12, 2020 02:59PM

  Re: It has been up and down all year.

zn190November 12, 2020 03:02PM

  Problem with Florida is it is LOADED with people! Orlando...

Ramgator186November 12, 2020 03:08PM

  And ZN and Rambro....

Ramgator173November 12, 2020 03:13PM

  Re: And ZN and Rambro....

ramBRO202November 12, 2020 05:15PM

  Re: And ZN and Rambro....

zn185November 13, 2020 04:59AM

  that doesn;t matter

zn179November 12, 2020 08:10PM

  Re: that doesn;t matter

zn199November 12, 2020 08:22PM

  Masks, shutdowns, isolation... oh my...

Atlantic Ram186November 11, 2020 04:20PM

  Re: Masks, shutdowns, isolation... oh my...

zn189November 11, 2020 04:55PM

  No, it wouldn't

NewMexicoRam187November 11, 2020 06:25PM

  Good news on the subject

waterfield187November 11, 2020 03:03PM

  Re: Good news on the subject

zn188November 11, 2020 05:00PM

  pro/con lockdown talk in the news

zn214November 13, 2020 05:54AM

  ""no appetite" "

waterfield178November 13, 2020 07:04AM

  hard to say

zn189November 13, 2020 08:12AM

  I'm sure we all have differing opinions on that..

sstrams193November 13, 2020 09:52AM

  Re: I'm sure we all have differing opinions on that..

waterfield185November 13, 2020 10:53AM

  a sports writer on getting the virus

zn187November 13, 2020 04:37PM

  health workers getting dangerously overworked in the new virus surge

zn208November 13, 2020 06:41PM

  Re: (new thread) COVID-19 Hospitalizations Are Surging.

canadaram225November 20, 2020 12:01PM

  what I heard about Canada

zn193November 20, 2020 12:11PM

  Re: what I heard about Canada

canadaram215November 20, 2020 01:51PM