March 24, 2021 08:29AM
That one last point on Goff being Oblivious I kind of read the opposite way.

Goff said he was surprised it was that bad (meaning to the point of being traded). Seems like the article confirmed that McVay didn't directly address Goff until that 4 hour conversation happened.

To me it confirmed what Goff was saying, though he left out that he probably felt McVay's frustrations percolated through his coaches and McVay's actions.

To me it speaks to a somewhat young and immature head coach that is not addressing issues head on and with a focused mind. We've all been in relationships (work or personal) where we chose to complain on the side but not address head on and that always ends up in a sour relationship.

It's McVay's job to work with his team and communicate and this backs up that he didn't. Hopefully a major learning opportunity for McVay and Goff both.

When things are going well McVay is fine. How will his relationship with Stafford be when things aren't perfect?
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  ESPN: Why the Sean McVay-Jared Goff partnership fell apart for Los Angeles Rams

MamaRAMa1468March 24, 2021 07:11AM

  I'll be in the minority....so be it

Ram49885March 24, 2021 07:16AM

  Re: Actually I think you'll be in the majority....

dzrams299March 24, 2021 08:31AM

  no a lot of us have been saying similar things

zn244March 24, 2021 01:31PM

  One of the thing that was often said around here

Ram_Ruler306March 24, 2021 07:29AM

  it's a false premise

zn590March 24, 2021 01:52PM

  " A league source"..... "A team source"....

RockRam660March 24, 2021 07:39AM

  Well it sounds like some of those sources were actual players.

Ram_Ruler478March 24, 2021 07:44AM

  I read "league source" as a former Rams coach

zn302March 24, 2021 01:35PM

  Re: " A league source"..... "A team source"....

waterfield309March 24, 2021 08:22AM

  Re: " A league source"..... "A team source"....

Rams43560March 24, 2021 08:26AM

  Re: " A league source"..... "A team source"....

ramBRO673March 24, 2021 09:10AM

  2 things: no journalist is a goner anymore for not having good sources

RockRam243March 24, 2021 11:44AM

  Re: 2 things: no journalist is a goner anymore for not having good sources

waterfield801March 24, 2021 12:48PM

  Re: 2 things: no journalist is a goner anymore for not having good sources

Ramboni757March 24, 2021 02:41PM

  Thank you for posting that

Drew2839210March 24, 2021 03:20PM

  I agree with you guys

zn198March 25, 2021 10:05PM

  Totally agree

Stafford9242March 24, 2021 01:51PM

  A detailed and hard hitting article. Thiry’s best, I think...

Rams43316March 24, 2021 07:53AM

  Goff Oblivious?

BearlyThere812March 24, 2021 08:29AM

  Re: Goff Oblivious?

dzrams638March 24, 2021 08:47AM

  Re: Goff Oblivious?

BearlyThere524March 24, 2021 08:57AM

  Re: Goff Oblivious?

dzrams727March 24, 2021 09:07AM

  Another part of maturity is realizing that things are what....

roman18321March 24, 2021 12:37PM

  Re: Another part of maturity is realizing that things are what....

Killrazor476March 25, 2021 10:21PM

  Re: Another part of maturity is realizing that things are what....

BerendsenRam189March 27, 2021 11:09PM

  Re: Goff Oblivious?

zn180March 24, 2021 01:41PM

  Re: Goff Oblivious?

Rams43287March 24, 2021 06:45PM

  Re: A detailed and hard hitting article. Thiry’s best, I think...

stlramz464March 24, 2021 04:32PM

  Re: A detailed and hard hitting article. Thiry’s best, I think...

zn216March 24, 2021 05:40PM

  Re: A detailed and hard hitting article. Thiry’s best, I think...

stlramz792March 24, 2021 06:03PM

  yes it is the truth

zn215March 24, 2021 09:10PM

  Re: yes it is the truth

Rams43502March 25, 2021 05:34AM

  jeez man

zn536March 25, 2021 05:54AM

  Re: jeez man

Rams43602March 25, 2021 06:07AM

  Re: jeez man

zn195March 25, 2021 06:27AM

  Re: jeez man

Rams43473March 25, 2021 07:06AM

  Re: ESPN: Why the Sean McVay-Jared Goff partnership fell apart for Los Angeles Rams

Ekern55460March 24, 2021 08:01AM

  Let me ask you something

MamaRAMa540March 24, 2021 06:46PM

  Re: It Felt Incomplete

RamsFanSince69395March 24, 2021 08:38AM

  Re: It Felt Incomplete

BearlyThere308March 24, 2021 08:40AM

  Re: It Felt Incomplete

roman18506March 24, 2021 11:50AM

  Re: It Felt Incomplete

zn343March 24, 2021 01:45PM

  Young coach, young quarterback

NewMexicoRam623March 24, 2021 09:15AM

  that's a good take

zn533March 24, 2021 01:47PM

  He seemed to do fine with cousins.

PHDram191March 24, 2021 04:31PM

  he wasn't the head coach

zn184March 24, 2021 09:28PM

  Re: he wasn't the head coach

PHDram628March 25, 2021 03:43AM

  So....

DaJudge211March 25, 2021 11:24AM

  Re: So....

PHDram172March 25, 2021 12:11PM

  Re: he wasn't the head coach

Rams43278March 25, 2021 05:50AM

  That's generally my opinion as well. (nm)

DaJudge534March 24, 2021 02:11PM

  The real reason -Shanahan cleaned McVays clock again

joram377March 24, 2021 12:52PM

  exactly

zn262March 24, 2021 01:54PM

  Shanahan is a better play-caller

BigGame81572March 24, 2021 02:58PM

  Re: Shanahan is a better play-caller

zn507March 24, 2021 03:09PM

  much better play caller.....and knows McVay's weaknesses

Ram49275March 24, 2021 09:26PM

  What are you basing this claim on?

promomasterj824March 25, 2021 01:13PM

  So has McVay..

sstrams724March 25, 2021 05:59AM

  Re: So has McVay..

BigGame81199March 25, 2021 06:44AM

  Re: So has McVay..

zn498March 26, 2021 02:56AM

  Re: ESPN: Why the Sean McVay-Jared Goff partnership fell apart for Los Angeles Rams

raminsanantone516March 24, 2021 01:46PM

  Why Sean McVay-Jared Goff partnership failed: A lot of "pros & cons"

Anonymous User630March 24, 2021 03:06PM

  McVay certainly shares fault

stlramz732March 24, 2021 05:12PM

  Re: McVay certainly shares fault

zn352March 24, 2021 10:52PM

  Thanks zn

stlramz527March 25, 2021 07:31AM

  good post

zn657March 25, 2021 07:37AM

  Do we have a , ‘chicken or the egg’ question here?

Rams43483March 25, 2021 07:58AM

  Re: Do we have a , ‘chicken ir the egg’ question here?

zn498March 25, 2021 08:14AM

  Re: Do we have a , ‘chicken ir the egg’ question here?

Rams43185March 25, 2021 08:43AM

  Re: Assuming you're right on the toxicity, the question still remains...

dzrams533March 25, 2021 09:04AM

  Re: Assuming you're right on the toxicity, the question still remains...

zn145March 25, 2021 09:24AM

  Re: Assuming you're right on the toxicity, the question still remains...

Rams43344March 25, 2021 09:34AM

  Re: Assuming you're right on the toxicity, the question still remains...

dzrams654March 25, 2021 09:44AM

  On the toxicity, the question still remains... Well said dzrams

Anonymous User396March 25, 2021 02:14PM

  I know your spin on this.

zn386March 25, 2021 06:09PM

  Good Stuff

NJRam715652March 25, 2021 07:54AM

  Good example, I've used it myself

stlramz484March 25, 2021 09:28AM

  Re: Good example, I've used it myself

zn519March 25, 2021 09:34AM

  Excellent analysis

Ram49529March 25, 2021 01:03PM

  That game was on Mcvay

PHDram549March 25, 2021 03:54PM

  @florida

BearlyThere435March 24, 2021 05:33PM

  Re: @florida Very soon @BearlyThere

Anonymous User682March 25, 2021 02:16PM

  I love yer "Goff" sig, FlaRam...

SunTzu_vs_Camus174March 26, 2021 04:28AM

  Did anyone Hear Brandon Weedon talking about it

no name334March 25, 2021 11:52AM

  Funny.

PHDram528March 25, 2021 01:23PM

  Brandon Wheedon? You mean the Browns draft bust?

promomasterj208March 25, 2021 01:29PM

  Re: Brandon Wheedon? You mean the Browns draft bust?

no name569March 26, 2021 03:26AM

  Re: Brandon Wheedon? You mean the Browns draft bust?

Ekern55425March 26, 2021 03:52AM

  So does McVay have Napoleon complex?!? (nm)

BigGame81527March 25, 2021 03:21PM

  Re: doesn't seem likely

AlbaNY_Ram512March 25, 2021 03:31PM

  Re: So a 4-inch difference

BigGame81214March 25, 2021 03:35PM

  historical note

zn213March 25, 2021 05:38PM

  That's one tall beer

Drew2839466March 25, 2021 06:18PM

  Re: That's one tall beer

AlbaNY_Ram610March 25, 2021 08:07PM

  Re: doesn't seem likely

no name176March 26, 2021 03:09AM

  Would you like to be that failed football player?

roman18459March 26, 2021 04:51AM

  Re: Did anyone Hear Brandon Weedon talking about it

Killrazor699March 25, 2021 10:34PM

  Re: Did anyone Hear Brandon Weedon talking about it

no name533March 26, 2021 05:52AM

  Does it seem like a lot of loose lips on Rams to anyone else?

Rams Junkie770March 26, 2021 12:23AM

  Re: Does it seem like a lot of loose lips on Rams to anyone else?

MamaRAMa755March 26, 2021 05:46AM