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yes it is the truth

March 24, 2021 09:10PM
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stlramz
"Well it's easy to mischaracterize things"

Ain't that the truth!

Yep it's the truth. Here's Silver's comment.

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In fairness to Goff, he was blindsided. Neither Snead nor McVay had told him the team wanted to move on, or anything close to that.

What is that comment about? It's about Goff no longer being considered the starting qb and the possibility that they wanted to move on.

What are YOU GUYS talking about?
The general long period of toxicity between Goff and McVay.


Did Goff or Silver say it blindsided them that there was a long period of toxicity? No.

It's about the team's decision to no longer consider him the starter.

In order to try and (for some reason) exonerate the coach, you are pretending (on no logical basis) that the long period of toxicity is what's being talked about.

Well it isn't. It's specifically about the team deciding he was no longer the starter.

Is a coach supposed to reveal that through public info without telling the qb first? No. That's bad management and bad leadership.

Is a player supposed to guess they're thinking that? No. It's the coach's job to directly say it, face to face, before going public. Because here's what the starting qb expects, especially after being extended with a second contract--that no matter what is going on, he is the starter till told otherwise.

Why would he expect that? Because that's the norm, that's what leadership is supposed to do, that's how it's done.

What are you guys doing so that you don't quite grasp all this?

You are pretending that the months of toxicity is what is being talked about. It's NOT. It's the direct revelation that as of "now" (whenever that is), the qb is no longer considered the starter.

There is absolutely no logical, valid, good reason to dodge that and try and distort the issue.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/24/2021 09:15PM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  ESPN: Why the Sean McVay-Jared Goff partnership fell apart for Los Angeles Rams

MamaRAMa1463March 24, 2021 07:11AM

  I'll be in the minority....so be it

Ram49882March 24, 2021 07:16AM

  Re: Actually I think you'll be in the majority....

dzrams296March 24, 2021 08:31AM

  no a lot of us have been saying similar things

zn240March 24, 2021 01:31PM

  One of the thing that was often said around here

Ram_Ruler303March 24, 2021 07:29AM

  it's a false premise

zn584March 24, 2021 01:52PM

  " A league source"..... "A team source"....

RockRam657March 24, 2021 07:39AM

  Well it sounds like some of those sources were actual players.

Ram_Ruler472March 24, 2021 07:44AM

  I read "league source" as a former Rams coach

zn298March 24, 2021 01:35PM

  Re: " A league source"..... "A team source"....

waterfield305March 24, 2021 08:22AM

  Re: " A league source"..... "A team source"....

Rams43556March 24, 2021 08:26AM

  Re: " A league source"..... "A team source"....

ramBRO668March 24, 2021 09:10AM

  2 things: no journalist is a goner anymore for not having good sources

RockRam239March 24, 2021 11:44AM

  Re: 2 things: no journalist is a goner anymore for not having good sources

waterfield797March 24, 2021 12:48PM

  Re: 2 things: no journalist is a goner anymore for not having good sources

Ramboni755March 24, 2021 02:41PM

  Thank you for posting that

Drew2839207March 24, 2021 03:20PM

  I agree with you guys

zn194March 25, 2021 10:05PM

  Totally agree

Stafford9238March 24, 2021 01:51PM

  A detailed and hard hitting article. Thiry’s best, I think...

Rams43311March 24, 2021 07:53AM

  Goff Oblivious?

BearlyThere809March 24, 2021 08:29AM

  Re: Goff Oblivious?

dzrams635March 24, 2021 08:47AM

  Re: Goff Oblivious?

BearlyThere520March 24, 2021 08:57AM

  Re: Goff Oblivious?

dzrams722March 24, 2021 09:07AM

  Another part of maturity is realizing that things are what....

roman18319March 24, 2021 12:37PM

  Re: Another part of maturity is realizing that things are what....

Killrazor472March 25, 2021 10:21PM

  Re: Another part of maturity is realizing that things are what....

BerendsenRam186March 27, 2021 11:09PM

  Re: Goff Oblivious?

zn175March 24, 2021 01:41PM

  Re: Goff Oblivious?

Rams43283March 24, 2021 06:45PM

  Re: A detailed and hard hitting article. Thiry’s best, I think...

stlramz461March 24, 2021 04:32PM

  Re: A detailed and hard hitting article. Thiry’s best, I think...

zn212March 24, 2021 05:40PM

  Re: A detailed and hard hitting article. Thiry’s best, I think...

stlramz785March 24, 2021 06:03PM

  yes it is the truth

zn212March 24, 2021 09:10PM

  Re: yes it is the truth

Rams43498March 25, 2021 05:34AM

  jeez man

zn531March 25, 2021 05:54AM

  Re: jeez man

Rams43599March 25, 2021 06:07AM

  Re: jeez man

zn192March 25, 2021 06:27AM

  Re: jeez man

Rams43470March 25, 2021 07:06AM

  Re: ESPN: Why the Sean McVay-Jared Goff partnership fell apart for Los Angeles Rams

Ekern55454March 24, 2021 08:01AM

  Let me ask you something

MamaRAMa537March 24, 2021 06:46PM

  Re: It Felt Incomplete

RamsFanSince69393March 24, 2021 08:38AM

  Re: It Felt Incomplete

BearlyThere304March 24, 2021 08:40AM

  Re: It Felt Incomplete

roman18502March 24, 2021 11:50AM

  Re: It Felt Incomplete

zn340March 24, 2021 01:45PM

  Young coach, young quarterback

NewMexicoRam620March 24, 2021 09:15AM

  that's a good take

zn529March 24, 2021 01:47PM

  He seemed to do fine with cousins.

PHDram188March 24, 2021 04:31PM

  he wasn't the head coach

zn182March 24, 2021 09:28PM

  Re: he wasn't the head coach

PHDram622March 25, 2021 03:43AM

  So....

DaJudge209March 25, 2021 11:24AM

  Re: So....

PHDram167March 25, 2021 12:11PM

  Re: he wasn't the head coach

Rams43274March 25, 2021 05:50AM

  That's generally my opinion as well. (nm)

DaJudge530March 24, 2021 02:11PM

  The real reason -Shanahan cleaned McVays clock again

joram372March 24, 2021 12:52PM

  exactly

zn258March 24, 2021 01:54PM

  Shanahan is a better play-caller

BigGame81568March 24, 2021 02:58PM

  Re: Shanahan is a better play-caller

zn504March 24, 2021 03:09PM

  much better play caller.....and knows McVay's weaknesses

Ram49273March 24, 2021 09:26PM

  What are you basing this claim on?

promomasterj816March 25, 2021 01:13PM

  So has McVay..

sstrams720March 25, 2021 05:59AM

  Re: So has McVay..

BigGame81195March 25, 2021 06:44AM

  Re: So has McVay..

zn495March 26, 2021 02:56AM

  Re: ESPN: Why the Sean McVay-Jared Goff partnership fell apart for Los Angeles Rams

raminsanantone512March 24, 2021 01:46PM

  Why Sean McVay-Jared Goff partnership failed: A lot of "pros & cons"

Anonymous User627March 24, 2021 03:06PM

  McVay certainly shares fault

stlramz728March 24, 2021 05:12PM

  Re: McVay certainly shares fault

zn347March 24, 2021 10:52PM

  Thanks zn

stlramz524March 25, 2021 07:31AM

  good post

zn654March 25, 2021 07:37AM

  Do we have a , ‘chicken or the egg’ question here?

Rams43478March 25, 2021 07:58AM

  Re: Do we have a , ‘chicken ir the egg’ question here?

zn495March 25, 2021 08:14AM

  Re: Do we have a , ‘chicken ir the egg’ question here?

Rams43181March 25, 2021 08:43AM

  Re: Assuming you're right on the toxicity, the question still remains...

dzrams529March 25, 2021 09:04AM

  Re: Assuming you're right on the toxicity, the question still remains...

zn141March 25, 2021 09:24AM

  Re: Assuming you're right on the toxicity, the question still remains...

Rams43338March 25, 2021 09:34AM

  Re: Assuming you're right on the toxicity, the question still remains...

dzrams649March 25, 2021 09:44AM

  On the toxicity, the question still remains... Well said dzrams

Anonymous User392March 25, 2021 02:14PM

  I know your spin on this.

zn381March 25, 2021 06:09PM

  Good Stuff

NJRam715650March 25, 2021 07:54AM

  Good example, I've used it myself

stlramz481March 25, 2021 09:28AM

  Re: Good example, I've used it myself

zn515March 25, 2021 09:34AM

  Excellent analysis

Ram49527March 25, 2021 01:03PM

  That game was on Mcvay

PHDram544March 25, 2021 03:54PM

  @florida

BearlyThere430March 24, 2021 05:33PM

  Re: @florida Very soon @BearlyThere

Anonymous User679March 25, 2021 02:16PM

  I love yer "Goff" sig, FlaRam...

SunTzu_vs_Camus168March 26, 2021 04:28AM

  Did anyone Hear Brandon Weedon talking about it

no name330March 25, 2021 11:52AM

  Funny.

PHDram523March 25, 2021 01:23PM

  Brandon Wheedon? You mean the Browns draft bust?

promomasterj203March 25, 2021 01:29PM

  Re: Brandon Wheedon? You mean the Browns draft bust?

no name563March 26, 2021 03:26AM

  Re: Brandon Wheedon? You mean the Browns draft bust?

Ekern55419March 26, 2021 03:52AM

  So does McVay have Napoleon complex?!? (nm)

BigGame81523March 25, 2021 03:21PM

  Re: doesn't seem likely

AlbaNY_Ram504March 25, 2021 03:31PM

  Re: So a 4-inch difference

BigGame81211March 25, 2021 03:35PM

  historical note

zn210March 25, 2021 05:38PM

  That's one tall beer

Drew2839461March 25, 2021 06:18PM

  Re: That's one tall beer

AlbaNY_Ram608March 25, 2021 08:07PM

  Re: doesn't seem likely

no name170March 26, 2021 03:09AM

  Would you like to be that failed football player?

roman18455March 26, 2021 04:51AM

  Re: Did anyone Hear Brandon Weedon talking about it

Killrazor696March 25, 2021 10:34PM

  Re: Did anyone Hear Brandon Weedon talking about it

no name529March 26, 2021 05:52AM

  Does it seem like a lot of loose lips on Rams to anyone else?

Rams Junkie766March 26, 2021 12:23AM

  Re: Does it seem like a lot of loose lips on Rams to anyone else?

MamaRAMa751March 26, 2021 05:46AM