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Yours is that we can ignore OL issues in 2019 and other issues in 2020 and what we have is a qb who spent 2 years "not evolving."

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That's not my quote. I never said they can ignore 2019 OL issues and other issues in 2020..

Yes, misrepresentations or misreadings can be big issues. I wonder, have you ever apologized for doing that yourself when it's pointed out?

Either way, the comment I refer to was that you "Don't know if regressed is the word but according to Jourdan Rodrigue they feel he didn't evolve as expected over the past 2 seasons." The idea was that his 2-year decline, as you see it, takes precedence over accounting for the OL effect (you also claimed that the OL improved significantly in the 2nd half of 2019, which is not really accurate--it got better than it was, and Goff's play reflected that, but it was still not a solid line, since it was starting 3 inexperienced injury replacements, including 2 rookies).

Your comment about "didn't evolve as expected" (the "as expected" there adding a big waffle factor) was supposed to be you backing up this prior statement: "In regard to 2019, are you saying that the horrible OL was the only issue? Did Goff have any regression apart from the OL?" I responded that "It's impossible to separate the 2." Your claim is that it is and that that is what happened--coaches, in your view, saw a presumed lack of evolution in spite of OL problems.

I don't think that formulation even remotely accounts for what OL regression does to qb play. (And I have been beating that same drum since 2007.) I also don't think one waffly comment to Rodrigue accounts for that. The dominant factor in 2019 was OL regression, and I don't see any valid or legit way around that.

As for my "misrepresentation," yes I take your comment as a way to end-run the real effects of 2019 OL regression. That is, to discount them.

I also find the Rodrigue comment about failure to evolve to be just odd in general. I think what really happened, excuses aside, is that for whatever reason there was a disconnect between coach and qb. Logically that could just as easily be because of the coach. Or because of both. Or because McVay can't build something that caters to Goff's strengths, or doesn't want to. Is this a criticism of McVay? Well, yes, and also, not really. Regardless of the reason, it was all solved by acquiring a high grade veteran qb. There's a famous quotation from a story about Japanese history. We are all born to a place in life and it is wrong and sinful to strive for something better. There therefore can be no excuse for rebellion. Except one. The only excuse for rebellion is succeeding at it. The only excuse for dumping a franchise qb is getting a savvy, talented veteran to replace him.

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