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Re: Both...but only one of them evolved...

February 13, 2021 04:28AM
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Goff had a bad year with the deep shots, but if you go back to compare both from 2017-2020
Goff had the better deep ball stats every year but 2020, usually by far

I'm of the belief, as is McVay, that Goff is not the same QB he was in 2017/2018. The league caught up to him.

So for me, those years are no longer relevant.

Did they catch up to him or McVay?

Not a big believer in this being all on Goff

also, there really was no deep threat on this team in 2020 and read what PFF said about 2019

Bucky Brooks had a good article a month or so ago about all the other stuff going on that contributed to the decline of this offense

They caught on to Goff's weaknesses and McVay's scheme.

But McVay has evolved and is changing up his scheme and realized he's going to have to do that every year.

Jourdan reported that McVay feels that Goff was not keeping up with him, he was not evolving. That's a big reason McVay concluded he would have to trade him.

Everyone has favorite quotations. Whether they actually describe reality or not. cool smiley One used to be that Goff never played well under pressure, except if you look at the numbers, he actually did play well under pressure in several games--so that particular mantra dried up. It was never as categorical or absolute as some tried to say it was.

Yours is that we can ignore OL issues in 2019 and other issues in 2020 and what we have is a qb who spent 2 years "not evolving."

I think that's all deeply questionable. And if the McVay camp is trying to sell that take to reporters (well actually it's just one reporter) then it's one of the few times I have little respect for something he did.

Look at Stafford's 5th year. Had he "evolved" into a top qb yet? In a measure which says a bad game in 2013 means a qb rating of less than 70, that year--his 5th year--MS had 4 bad games. In those 4 games he also threw 9 INTs and had an avg. qb rating of 55.8.

Whatever the reason, with the 2020 Rams, there was a disconnect between the qb and the head coach, only this time, the head coach was in the fortunate position where he could actually trade a younger qb for a top veteran. That's one big equalizer. Rams have never had a qb like Stafford. Which is why virtually no one among Rams fans objected to the trade (though there was some pile-on nonsense for a couple of people who pretended to themselves that some did object to it...typical flame post style motives taunting stuff, nothing much above that, but still.)


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/13/2021 04:31AM by zn.
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  Aqib Talib: Not Sold on Stafford, doubts he's better than Goff

Ram49757February 11, 2021 09:44PM

  T.J. Lang/Jon Jansen "Stafford not a leader"

Ram49327February 11, 2021 09:50PM

  "Stafford not a leader"....Goff?

SunTzu_vs_Camus260February 12, 2021 06:37AM

  Re: "Stafford not a leader"....Goff?

BearlyThere210February 12, 2021 08:13AM

  Better temper their expectations

Drew2839199February 12, 2021 08:20AM

  Right

Atlantic Ram160February 12, 2021 09:13PM

  Totally disagree with Jansen, Stafford has fire and is a leader

Coy Bacon331February 12, 2021 08:23AM

  Re: Aqib Talib: Not Sold on Stafford, doubts he's better than Goff

Stafford9205February 12, 2021 08:16AM

  Most completions of 20+ yards last two years

Ram49242February 12, 2021 02:24PM

  Wow that's a VERY surprising stat

Ram_Ruler295February 12, 2021 02:36PM

  Re: Wow that's a VERY surprising stat

Rampage2K-176February 12, 2021 02:46PM

  Re: Gotta be careful with the fantasy posts...

dzrams178February 12, 2021 03:22PM

  Re: Gotta be careful with the fantasy posts...

Rams43321February 12, 2021 05:09PM

  Re: Gotta be careful with the fantasy posts...

Atlantic Ram147February 12, 2021 06:34PM

  There you go

NewMexicoRam135February 12, 2021 07:13PM

  Re: Gotta be careful with the fantasy posts...

Rampage2K-204February 12, 2021 07:20PM

  Re: Gotta be careful with the fantasy posts...

dzrams137February 12, 2021 08:38PM

  Re: Gotta be careful with the fantasy posts...

Rampage2K-138February 12, 2021 08:46PM

  Re: Both...but only one of them evolved...

dzrams144February 12, 2021 08:50PM

  Re: Both...but only one of them evolved...

zn145February 13, 2021 04:28AM

  Re: That's a blatant misrepresentation...

dzrams141February 13, 2021 05:39PM

  Re: That's a blatant misrepresentation...

zn156February 13, 2021 08:38PM

  Re: You should talk to the 2020 Zn...lol

dzrams129February 13, 2021 09:54PM

  Re: You should talk to the 2020 Zn...lol

zn163February 13, 2021 10:15PM

  Re: You should talk to the 2020 Zn...lol

dzrams165February 13, 2021 10:45PM

  Re: Gotta be careful with the fantasy posts...

zn119February 13, 2021 04:10AM

  Re: Gotta be careful with the fantasy posts...

AlbaNY_Ram130February 13, 2021 04:33AM

  Not Sold on Stafford, Are we still debating the trade.. geeez

Anonymous User181February 12, 2021 06:10PM

  Re: Not Sold on Stafford, Are we still debating the trade.. geeez

BerendsenRam146February 12, 2021 07:28PM

  Goff vs Stafford first five years

Rampage2K-149February 12, 2021 07:39PM

  Re: Not Sold on Stafford, Are we still debating the trade.. geeez

Classicalwit282February 12, 2021 07:41PM

  Re: Not Sold on Stafford, Are we still debating the trade.. geeez

BerendsenRam136February 12, 2021 08:02PM

  did anyone actually debate the trade?

zn173February 12, 2021 08:12PM

  Re: Not Sold on Stafford, Are we still debating the trade.. geeez

george_allen149February 12, 2021 08:57PM

  What a shock. Different people think differently about various people

RockRam235February 13, 2021 03:37AM