January 26, 2021 09:25PM | Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 16,078
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I’m gonna trust McVay/Snead on this.
McVay, in particular, has earned his O creds. If he has decided to throw in the towel on Goff after these last 41 games, then so be it.
The last thing in the world both Snead and McVay should want is to have another huge contract player extension blow up in their faces. So, if, despite that, they are apparently willing to bite the bullet on Goff and his contract, well, it speaks volumes.
They seem to desire to make the best of the situation and what more can we ask for?
What if making the best of the situation turns out to be Goff beating the competition, a more solidly built offense giving him a better opportunity, and McVay figuring out how to score TDs in the redzone?
I don't know if ALL of those things can happen, so let's focus--are you completely ruling out Goff rebounding after an inconsistent year. (Remember my example of Ryan--he rebounded in 2016 from a bad 2015 that was worse that Goff's 2020).
You are completely ruling that out. It's a non-thing. Could never happen, not in a thousand years.
That's a fair question 43.
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It’s not just an inconsistent year, zn. It’s now a 41 game trend. That’s 2 1/2 years and counting. McVay, despite all his expertise on O matters, seems to be at the end of his rope.
Time is slipping by and prime years of many talented teammates are being squandered. I think Goff’s problems are between the ears, mostly a self confidence thing. Is it possible that Goff needs a shrink more than he needs a coach?
43--I think that's nonsense. Honestly I do. You're acting like this is Wentz in 2020. Or Winston. Or Mariota. That view is just forced to leave too much out.
You factor out an entire year of OL issues (and here's my enduring challenge--name any qbs who played well with that level of OL problems. No one ever answers this. In the end I myself had to come up with Brady in 2015 and Wilson in 2017).
You factor out the head coach/coordinator not being able to adjust to certain defenses. And being poor in redzone scoring in spite of the qb being highly rated in redzone scoring.
You factor out things like playing well hurt in the 2020 playoffs.
I just cannot see the "41 games all on the qb" thing as a credible take.
For example when the Rams beat Tampa this year, they could not run on that defense that day (1.8 a carry) and had to come back from from being tied twice in the 2nd half. In the 3 drives in the 2nd half the qb went 11 of 13 for 130 yards, with one missed FG, 1 good FG, and a TD pass. Yet as we just saw Rodgers couldn't beat that defense (twice this year). Your bad qb in 2 1/2 years somehow managed that and beating the Saints on the road to take the NFC and so on and so on.
At least when people got down on qbs in the past it was for a losing team. And genuinely all the way around consistently bad qb play.
So yeah he can rebound from having 4 bad games in 2020. IMO.
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