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Re: My 2 cents

November 03, 2020 11:46AM
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3. Goffs trajectory to me looks like a Flacco or Stafford type. Good, top 12 qb good, but not a guy that will put an offense on his back and carry it. He is still too inconsistent for my taste. And not game to game, its from drive to drive.

That was from after the SF game. Well, his inconsistency reared its ugly head yet again. Everyone can have a bad game. Goff had a bad game. But here in lies my problem with him. I just don't feel I can trust him the way I should in year 5. And maybe thats a me problem. Maybe it isn't. But its clear to me he more of a high end game manager more than he is a difference maker. Can he improve? Absolutely. Am I counting on it? No.

McVay also did him no favors, but at the end of the day, Goff needs to adjust at the LoS and after the snap.

I've looked at that fumble recovery for a TD. Hendo could be at fault, but I'm thinking he wasn't. If Goff made a presnap adjustment to the zero coverage, then Hendo didn't get the message.He would have motioned into the backfield to take on the 6th rusher. And if Goff did, and Hendo didn't hear it, thats on hendo, but then Goff needs to call a TO. I'm thinking Goff just didn't adjust, expecting Hendo to chip on his way by, thats a weird and risky way to take on a zero coverage. And even then, Goff needs to be looking at Hendo for the RB outlet IMMEDIATELY. He never saw it coming. Thats bad QB play.

Anyhow, at some point McVay is going to have to start remodeling his offense to cater to a QB that cannot or just doesn't see the defense as well as a 5th year QB should. Maybe he needs to go back to getting Goff up to the LoS faster and talking into his ear until the coms turn off.

I still like Goff, but I'm not sure he is a needle mover at the position.

In no order I'd take these QBs over Goff in a longterm scenario:
Burrow - he looks like the real deal and is obviously just getting started
Mahomes - duh
Jackson - He might only last 5 years, but they are gonna be some great years
Murray - He seems like he could be a differnce maker with a short stop arm and elite athletic ability
Wilson - Duh
Watson - with the Rams weapons, I'd love this kid
Rodgers - one of the best ever, still enough tread on the tires
Prescott- I'm partial to him, since I loved him in the draft, he just seems like a winner.

2 guys I didn't mention are Herbert and Tua. its just too early on those 2 for me. I also didn't mention Brees, Brady or Rothlisberger. They are at or near the end of the their incredible careers. Same with Rivers. Wentz as much as it pains me has me concerned.

So Goff still falls inside the top 10 as far as furure QBs (for the record, I'd take Lawrence, Fields and Lance ahead of Goff this spring, but then again, I'm a draft nerd so why wouldn't I lol)

One last thing, I think (again its just my opinion) that coming from that Bear Raid offense could be hindering or just flat out hid Goffs shortcomings reading a defense and scanning a field. He did in fact read defenses, but running a hurry up no huddle offense, he was never going to see a complicated defensive scheme and never see a zero coverage scheme.



Goff is not a qb to take a team on his back and carry us game in and game out like Wilson does for Seattle. Just remember, Trent Dilfer and Flacco won Super Bowls. We have a solid team that depends on all areas to do their part for a victory. With that, I just think McVay has to realize when Goff is on or whether he is having an off day. We ran the ball so well against Miami that we should have pounded on them til they adjusted. Many have already stated about Special teams (let's not forget about our kicker issue. If he had made the last fg we still have a chance in that game), but offensively, we are falling back into that 11 personnel again all the time. We have a big playbook with lots of personnel packages, we need to use them.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  McVay on Goff: urgency and preparation

max1436November 03, 2020 01:31AM

  Woah! Please post a link

Ram_Ruler277November 03, 2020 01:45AM

  Gotta listen to this podcast

max363November 03, 2020 02:03AM

  Re: yeah - i’ve never heard him sound like that

Speed_Kills285November 03, 2020 03:16AM

  thanks for sharing

21Dog217November 03, 2020 04:25AM

  I did

zn277November 03, 2020 07:08AM

  That's your viewpoint

max441November 03, 2020 07:28AM

  wrong post

zn224November 03, 2020 07:29AM

  Re: McVay on Goff: urgency and preparation

Classicalwit240November 03, 2020 03:01AM

  McVay - I thought the oline had a winning performance Sunday

Speed_Kills274November 03, 2020 03:04AM

  A VERY good thing! I think we are FINALLY seeing....

Ramgator346November 03, 2020 04:15AM

  Yup, thats how I heard it...

max273November 03, 2020 04:15AM

  But Goff HAS done it...

sstrams233November 03, 2020 04:24AM

  Re: Was he pressured in that game?

dzrams169November 03, 2020 06:42AM

  He was under pressure..

sstrams198November 03, 2020 06:45AM

  Goff plays well against the Saints and Hawks

Speed_Kills284November 03, 2020 06:54AM

  So why can't he play..

sstrams375November 03, 2020 07:19AM

  yes he was pressured in that game

zn357November 03, 2020 07:34AM

  Re: But Goff HAS done it...

VANRAM184November 07, 2020 06:47PM

  I just listened. I see where you're coming from.

Ram_Ruler375November 03, 2020 04:14AM

  Max amazing information

den-the-coach505November 03, 2020 04:22AM

  Re: Max amazing information

max188November 03, 2020 04:33AM

  Re: I just listened. I see where you're coming from.

Ramsdude190November 03, 2020 04:42AM

  Re: I just listened. I see where you're coming from.

max185November 03, 2020 04:48AM

  Re: I just listened. I see where you're coming from.

Ramsdude340November 03, 2020 05:02AM

  Here's the $99,000 question...

max255November 03, 2020 05:20AM

  Re: Here's the $99,000 answer...

Ramsdude414November 03, 2020 05:34AM

  Re: Here's the $99,000 question...

Ramsdude279November 24, 2020 12:40PM

  thats where I am

Speed_Kills292November 03, 2020 05:20AM

  No excusing McVay

BumRap136November 06, 2020 01:31AM

  Re: No excusing McVay

Rams43262November 06, 2020 08:13AM

  Re: No excusing McVay

moklerman131November 07, 2020 07:40PM

  To be fair, Mcvay mentions this as well

Ram_Ruler216November 03, 2020 04:56AM

  Re: To be fair, Mcvay mentions this as well

Ramsdude212November 03, 2020 05:15AM

  Re: To be fair, Mcvay mentions this as well

Killrazor163November 04, 2020 12:42AM

  yup

Speed_Kills142November 03, 2020 05:14AM

  Re: I just listened. I see where you're coming from.

JimYoungblood53233November 03, 2020 06:57AM

  a bit of info, maybe this one not Goffs fauly, maybe RB

JimYoungblood53179November 03, 2020 06:58AM

  couple extras

JimYoungblood53278November 03, 2020 07:32AM

  one of the things about coachspeak is, it allows us to act like the coach is saying what we want to believe

zn310November 03, 2020 05:19AM

  However...

max359November 03, 2020 05:22AM

  no but its his

Speed_Kills184November 03, 2020 05:23AM

  Re: no but its his

max175November 03, 2020 05:28AM

  you didn't miss anything man lol nm

Speed_Kills250November 03, 2020 05:34AM

  that's fair

zn188November 03, 2020 07:23AM

  I get that..

max386November 03, 2020 07:40AM

  Re: I get that..

zn145November 03, 2020 07:43AM

  Wrong post...

max210November 03, 2020 08:04AM

  and I don't agree with it Max

zn176November 03, 2020 08:11AM

  Re: and I don't agree with it Max

max228November 03, 2020 08:32AM

  Re: and I don't agree with it Max

VANRAM211November 07, 2020 06:54PM

  Whoa! Let’s take a deep breath here, fellas...

Rams43256November 03, 2020 06:29AM

  Re: And McVay seems to be saying this too...

dzrams685November 03, 2020 06:58AM

  there's more than 2 issues here

zn172November 03, 2020 07:28AM

  Re: I know...

dzrams207November 03, 2020 07:35AM

  Re: I know...

zn146November 03, 2020 07:39AM

  Re: You're repeating what I said again....

dzrams189November 03, 2020 07:47AM

  no

zn152November 03, 2020 07:50AM

  Re: Hence, my key phrase "TO ME"

dzrams171November 03, 2020 07:55AM

  and hence me saying the same

zn212November 03, 2020 07:57AM

  Re: Now you're repeating yourself...lol

dzrams160November 03, 2020 08:03AM

  not sure why there's no communication

zn166November 03, 2020 08:07AM

  Re: The communication is fine...

dzrams210November 03, 2020 08:11AM

  Re: The communication is fine...

zn234November 03, 2020 08:18AM

  Re: The communication is fine...

Ramsdude161November 03, 2020 08:29AM

  Re: The communication is fine...

zn201November 03, 2020 08:34AM

  Re: The communication is fine...

Ramsdude282November 03, 2020 08:41AM

  Re: Hence, my key phrase "TO ME"

Rampage2K-164November 03, 2020 08:30AM

  Re: Hence, my key phrase "TO ME"

dzrams154November 03, 2020 08:37AM

  Re: Hence, my key phrase "TO ME"

Rampage2K-193November 03, 2020 09:10AM

  Re: Whoa! Let’s take a deep breath here, fellas...

Ramsfan1971214November 03, 2020 07:45AM

  Re: Whoa! Let’s take a deep breath here, fellas...

zn229November 03, 2020 07:55AM

  Re: Whoa! Let’s take a deep breath here, fellas...

Ramsdude163November 03, 2020 08:07AM

  OK, let's cut through the crap

max189November 03, 2020 09:16AM

  he already has

zn174November 03, 2020 10:44AM

  My 2 cents

Deadpool243November 03, 2020 09:34AM

  Re: My 2 cents

zn262November 03, 2020 09:53AM

  I expect a quick turn around

Hazlet Hacksaw215November 03, 2020 12:30PM

  Re: My 2 cents

Ramsfan1971196November 03, 2020 11:46AM

  Re: My 2 cents

merlin161November 05, 2020 01:49PM

  Re: McVay on Goff: urgency and preparation

BumRap165November 06, 2020 01:35AM