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Re: Whoa! Let’s take a deep breath here, fellas...

November 03, 2020 07:55AM
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Ramsfan1971
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Rams43
Goff had a miserable game, especially in the 1st half.

But that’s a LONG way from claiming that he can’t play as a quality NFL QB. I mean, we’ve all seen HOFer QB’s have terrible games, right? And Goff is no HOFer.

Way too much overreaction today. I prefer ramsdude’s take. It’s a very calm and reasoned assessment.

IOW, I give equal part blame to McVay and Goff and there were also plenty of plays left on the field while blocking, catching, running, and ST.


I am not a Goff apologist! Like 43, Goff had a miserable game, but we have also at times seen him have great games. He is what he is ( not consistently good especially under pressure). It was obvious from the beginning that he was off and 0 cover was eating him alive. The run game was working well. McVay has said we were going to be a run first team, yet, with a qb obviously struggling, he went away from it time and time again while the game was close. Our D has been great in the second half all year. We need to keep games close when Goff is off and rely on our D and run game until he can find a rhythm. After the second turn over and giving up the lead, we should have pounded at them until they had to adjust. If McVay would have taken control with a slow drive and kept it close, the second half could have turned out much differently.

And of course it doesn't simplistically reduce to is the qb off or on.

We see all the time where coaches find ways to alter the complexion of a game and get a qb who is off at first back into the game.

People talk all the time about the Saints game, the championship game in 2018. They take that as a representative moment showing how good Goff can be.

And in doing that people forget he had an "off" stretch in that game and came back from it.

Same thing happened this year in the Bills game.

A coach can help the qb by having a feel for that and reducing the off moments, not by acting like it's going to be exclusively one or the other the entire game, but by knowing you can change up the situation with effective playcalling.

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  McVay on Goff: urgency and preparation

max1436November 03, 2020 01:31AM

  Woah! Please post a link

Ram_Ruler278November 03, 2020 01:45AM

  Gotta listen to this podcast

max363November 03, 2020 02:03AM

  Re: yeah - i’ve never heard him sound like that

Speed_Kills286November 03, 2020 03:16AM

  thanks for sharing

21Dog217November 03, 2020 04:25AM

  I did

zn278November 03, 2020 07:08AM

  That's your viewpoint

max441November 03, 2020 07:28AM

  wrong post

zn225November 03, 2020 07:29AM

  Re: McVay on Goff: urgency and preparation

Classicalwit240November 03, 2020 03:01AM

  McVay - I thought the oline had a winning performance Sunday

Speed_Kills275November 03, 2020 03:04AM

  A VERY good thing! I think we are FINALLY seeing....

Ramgator346November 03, 2020 04:15AM

  Yup, thats how I heard it...

max273November 03, 2020 04:15AM

  But Goff HAS done it...

sstrams233November 03, 2020 04:24AM

  Re: Was he pressured in that game?

dzrams169November 03, 2020 06:42AM

  He was under pressure..

sstrams198November 03, 2020 06:45AM

  Goff plays well against the Saints and Hawks

Speed_Kills285November 03, 2020 06:54AM

  So why can't he play..

sstrams375November 03, 2020 07:19AM

  yes he was pressured in that game

zn358November 03, 2020 07:34AM

  Re: But Goff HAS done it...

VANRAM184November 07, 2020 06:47PM

  I just listened. I see where you're coming from.

Ram_Ruler375November 03, 2020 04:14AM

  Max amazing information

den-the-coach505November 03, 2020 04:22AM

  Re: Max amazing information

max189November 03, 2020 04:33AM

  Re: I just listened. I see where you're coming from.

Ramsdude191November 03, 2020 04:42AM

  Re: I just listened. I see where you're coming from.

max185November 03, 2020 04:48AM

  Re: I just listened. I see where you're coming from.

Ramsdude340November 03, 2020 05:02AM

  Here's the $99,000 question...

max255November 03, 2020 05:20AM

  Re: Here's the $99,000 answer...

Ramsdude415November 03, 2020 05:34AM

  Re: Here's the $99,000 question...

Ramsdude279November 24, 2020 12:40PM

  thats where I am

Speed_Kills292November 03, 2020 05:20AM

  No excusing McVay

BumRap136November 06, 2020 01:31AM

  Re: No excusing McVay

Rams43263November 06, 2020 08:13AM

  Re: No excusing McVay

moklerman132November 07, 2020 07:40PM

  To be fair, Mcvay mentions this as well

Ram_Ruler216November 03, 2020 04:56AM

  Re: To be fair, Mcvay mentions this as well

Ramsdude212November 03, 2020 05:15AM

  Re: To be fair, Mcvay mentions this as well

Killrazor163November 04, 2020 12:42AM

  yup

Speed_Kills142November 03, 2020 05:14AM

  Re: I just listened. I see where you're coming from.

JimYoungblood53234November 03, 2020 06:57AM

  a bit of info, maybe this one not Goffs fauly, maybe RB

JimYoungblood53180November 03, 2020 06:58AM

  couple extras

JimYoungblood53279November 03, 2020 07:32AM

  one of the things about coachspeak is, it allows us to act like the coach is saying what we want to believe

zn310November 03, 2020 05:19AM

  However...

max359November 03, 2020 05:22AM

  no but its his

Speed_Kills185November 03, 2020 05:23AM

  Re: no but its his

max175November 03, 2020 05:28AM

  you didn't miss anything man lol nm

Speed_Kills251November 03, 2020 05:34AM

  that's fair

zn188November 03, 2020 07:23AM

  I get that..

max386November 03, 2020 07:40AM

  Re: I get that..

zn145November 03, 2020 07:43AM

  Wrong post...

max211November 03, 2020 08:04AM

  and I don't agree with it Max

zn176November 03, 2020 08:11AM

  Re: and I don't agree with it Max

max228November 03, 2020 08:32AM

  Re: and I don't agree with it Max

VANRAM211November 07, 2020 06:54PM

  Whoa! Let’s take a deep breath here, fellas...

Rams43257November 03, 2020 06:29AM

  Re: And McVay seems to be saying this too...

dzrams685November 03, 2020 06:58AM

  there's more than 2 issues here

zn172November 03, 2020 07:28AM

  Re: I know...

dzrams207November 03, 2020 07:35AM

  Re: I know...

zn146November 03, 2020 07:39AM

  Re: You're repeating what I said again....

dzrams189November 03, 2020 07:47AM

  no

zn152November 03, 2020 07:50AM

  Re: Hence, my key phrase "TO ME"

dzrams171November 03, 2020 07:55AM

  and hence me saying the same

zn212November 03, 2020 07:57AM

  Re: Now you're repeating yourself...lol

dzrams160November 03, 2020 08:03AM

  not sure why there's no communication

zn166November 03, 2020 08:07AM

  Re: The communication is fine...

dzrams210November 03, 2020 08:11AM

  Re: The communication is fine...

zn235November 03, 2020 08:18AM

  Re: The communication is fine...

Ramsdude161November 03, 2020 08:29AM

  Re: The communication is fine...

zn201November 03, 2020 08:34AM

  Re: The communication is fine...

Ramsdude282November 03, 2020 08:41AM

  Re: Hence, my key phrase "TO ME"

Rampage2K-164November 03, 2020 08:30AM

  Re: Hence, my key phrase "TO ME"

dzrams154November 03, 2020 08:37AM

  Re: Hence, my key phrase "TO ME"

Rampage2K-193November 03, 2020 09:10AM

  Re: Whoa! Let’s take a deep breath here, fellas...

Ramsfan1971215November 03, 2020 07:45AM

  Re: Whoa! Let’s take a deep breath here, fellas...

zn229November 03, 2020 07:55AM

  Re: Whoa! Let’s take a deep breath here, fellas...

Ramsdude163November 03, 2020 08:07AM

  OK, let's cut through the crap

max189November 03, 2020 09:16AM

  he already has

zn175November 03, 2020 10:44AM

  My 2 cents

Deadpool243November 03, 2020 09:34AM

  Re: My 2 cents

zn262November 03, 2020 09:53AM

  I expect a quick turn around

Hazlet Hacksaw215November 03, 2020 12:30PM

  Re: My 2 cents

Ramsfan1971197November 03, 2020 11:46AM

  Re: My 2 cents

merlin162November 05, 2020 01:49PM

  Re: McVay on Goff: urgency and preparation

BumRap165November 06, 2020 01:35AM