March 23, 2020 07:46AM
Well, it's only considered an 'inflated' price if you haven't bought into the premise. My take is all the involved parties have an unspoken understanding that 2nd contracts for starting QBs are around 15% of that year's cap. (It seems like they've all bought in since in practical terms it's been that way since 2012 ...)

It makes it easy to budget years in advance, it avoids discussions about whether 1 QB is better or worse than another. And so you end up with nonsense like Wilson and Garoppolo getting comparable deals despite the great disparity in their accomplishments.

It's not unlike rookie deals under the prior CBA. You pretty much knew what each pick was going to sign for: just look at the comparable slot from the previous year and adjust for inflation. And to be clear, I'm not advocating the current system. It reminds me of places I worked where seniority was the primary factor in deciding who got promoted. It was an easy way out for management since saying 'the other candidate has been here longer than you' is an easier conversation than 'the other candidate is better than you'. The downside in both scenarios is that the rewards are not always in line with one's accomplishments.

I've thought for a while that this whole 2nd contract thing is at the root of Prescott's negotiation with the Cowboys. Wentz and Goff's extensions don't kick in until 2021 and are based on a cap estimated to be around $215M. Prescott's deal starts in 2020 when the cap is $198.2M. If Prescott got the same deal Goff did (15.58%) he'd get a 4 year, $123.5M contract, just shy of $31M a year. I'm not sure what he's asking, but the rumor mill says more that Goff's $33.5M. And since $34M turns out to be more than 17% of the cap it becomes obvious what Prescott's real problem is: his agents have not bought in to the 'around 15%' norm.



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  It's All on Jared Now

Classicalwit938March 22, 2020 11:24AM

  At 34 million

Ram_Ruler292March 22, 2020 11:27AM

  Re: At 34 million

zn271March 22, 2020 12:25PM

  Re: At 34 million

Rampage2K-188March 22, 2020 12:43PM

  Re: At 34 million

zn168March 22, 2020 02:16PM

  For me it's more about the cap space than the salary

Ram_Ruler305March 22, 2020 03:20PM

  Re: For me it's more about the cap space than the salary

zn158March 22, 2020 03:29PM

  I guess we differ on franchise qb

Ram_Ruler140March 22, 2020 03:58PM

  Re: I guess we differ on franchise qb

zn153March 22, 2020 04:25PM

  Again I disagree

Ram_Ruler137March 22, 2020 05:01PM

  oh sure that's debateable

zn154March 22, 2020 06:05PM

  "which group does Goff being in?"

Ram_Ruler129March 23, 2020 03:47AM

  Re: "which group does Goff being in?"

zn127March 23, 2020 04:10AM

  Yeah we're on the same page now

Ram_Ruler130March 23, 2020 04:28AM

  Teddy Bridgwater

PHDram204March 22, 2020 04:33PM

  the contract with the Panthers is a 3rd contract

zn164March 22, 2020 07:21PM

  my apologies

PHDram143March 22, 2020 09:31PM

  Re: my apologies

zn134March 22, 2020 09:40PM

  Re: my apologies

PHDram120March 22, 2020 09:45PM

  Re: my apologies

zn208March 22, 2020 09:58PM

  Re: here's the list

AlbaNY_Ram120March 23, 2020 05:02AM

  Re: here's the list

PHDram143March 23, 2020 05:14AM

  Re: here's the list

AlbaNY_Ram123March 23, 2020 05:38AM

  Re: here's the list

PHDram122March 23, 2020 06:18AM

  Re: here's the list

AlbaNY_Ram141March 23, 2020 06:54AM

  Re: here's the list

PHDram134March 23, 2020 07:16AM

  Re: here's the list

AlbaNY_Ram137March 23, 2020 07:46AM

  Re: here's the list

PHDram120March 23, 2020 08:06AM

  Re: here's the list

AlbaNY_Ram124March 23, 2020 09:00AM

  Re: here's the list

PHDram127March 23, 2020 09:11AM

  Re: my apologies

PHDram126March 23, 2020 05:29AM

  Re: my apologies

AlbaNY_Ram118March 23, 2020 05:42AM

  Re: my apologies

AlbaNY_Ram129March 23, 2020 06:02AM

  Re: my apologies

PHDram135March 23, 2020 06:21AM

  Re: At 34 million--wisdom wins

Steve137March 23, 2020 06:20AM

  I think you're being alarmist

zn237March 22, 2020 11:52AM

  Re: the O Line IS huge concern...

spagsbacker181March 22, 2020 12:55PM

  Young Players Can Actually Get Better

RamBill197March 22, 2020 01:55PM

  Re: Young Players Can Actually Get Better

zn179March 22, 2020 02:22PM

  Re: Haven't they been doing that?

dzrams152March 22, 2020 03:34PM

  Agreed

PHDram141March 22, 2020 04:40PM

  Re: It's All on Jared Now

Hazlet Hacksaw190March 22, 2020 11:53AM

  Any team that puts it all on one player is doomed.....

Rampage2K-217March 22, 2020 12:08PM

  Re: It's All on Jared Now

AlbaNY_Ram222March 22, 2020 12:10PM

  Re: I sure hope not

Speed_Kills180March 22, 2020 12:42PM

  Re: I sure hope not

Rampage2K-169March 22, 2020 12:55PM

  Re: I sure hope not

Classicalwit259March 22, 2020 01:55PM

  Re: I sure hope not

GroundPounder175March 22, 2020 02:11PM

  Re: All QBs need a running game

merlin172March 22, 2020 04:21PM

  Re: All QBs need a running game

Classicalwit155March 22, 2020 04:56PM

  Tampa was 3rd in the NFL in scoring

Ram_Ruler151March 22, 2020 05:02PM

  Re: Tampa was 3rd in the NFL in scoring

moklerman280March 22, 2020 05:23PM

  Your last paragraph is perfect

Ram_Ruler330March 22, 2020 05:28PM

  Re: Your last paragraph is perfect

moklerman152March 22, 2020 05:44PM

  look further

zn161March 22, 2020 09:19PM

  Not in the post I responded to

Ram_Ruler133March 23, 2020 03:39AM

  Re: Not in the post I responded to

zn137March 23, 2020 05:07AM

  Re: It's All on Jared Now

Ramrooter146March 23, 2020 04:26AM

  Re: It's All on Jared Now

zn141March 23, 2020 04:59AM

  Re: It's All on Jared Now

Rams43146March 23, 2020 06:33AM

  Re: Rams can, and did win with Goff!

oldschoolramfan133March 23, 2020 06:59AM

  Re: It's All on Jared Now

Rampage2K-136March 23, 2020 07:02AM

  I'm with you!

Suh-weet!124March 23, 2020 10:58AM