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The Rams are not the same as all teams as far as OL goes. They need a better OL than most teams b/c their QB is worse than the average QB when he isn't protected.
First off no one ever compares injury depleted lines so the raw statistics on pressure and its effect have a problem.
Second, that's a logical flaw, what I quote there. Just because Goff suffers under bad protection does not logically mean he needs elite protection.
He just needs decent protection.
Just because I walk better with a cane does not mean I need the most expensive, gold-trimmed, high fashion cane I can get.
The Rams OL just needs not to be BROKEN. Solid. That does not mean it has to be elite.
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On the ZBS, you missed the context I provided. I mentioned the mobility of the QB. Dallas and Seattle have mobile QBs
No, I don't buy the idea that you need a mobile qb for the running game to work in a ZBS. There have been far too many good ZBS teams in history for that claim to hold up. Heck the Broncos were a heavy ZBS team in 2015 and they had a much more immobile qb than Goff and a serviceable running game (13th in yards per attempt.)
And besides, right now the Rams OL is a work in progress. You never do well if you lose 5 starters (2 left, 3 injuries) and end up replacing the injuries mid-season with 3 newbies, as I said. The scheme has nothing to do with it. You can't point at a blonde man with casts on both his legs and declare that blonde men never run well and here's the proof.
Well, first, since we both agreed a week or two ago that this injury depleted line was performing better than the non-injury depleted line, the raw statistics on pressure for injury depleted lines are irrelevant IMO.
Secondly, there is a flaw with your cane needing, crippled man analogy. It assumes that every person needing support as they walk all struggle at the same level and need the same level of support to walk. But maybe you walk slow because you're old, while another man is missing a leg, and a third man is missing both legs.
You may simply need a cane, the second man needs an elaborate cane, and the third man needs a wheelchair. Saying they would all be helped by having a cane would probably be true but doesn't factor in the degree of help each man needs.
We're not going to agree on this. I'm fine with that. You should make your peace with it. I believe we already saw a solid OL in 2018 and Goff was not ok then. Last year's line was certainly not injury depleted and it also wan't subpar per your definition the other day since it was not consistently bad and merely just got beat the five times it faced teams with physical fronts. The OL was not broken for most of 2018 and he still did horrible under pressure.
So no, decent is not enough. In this under pressure context, Goff is the third man missing both legs who needs a wheelchair. We're wasting our time shopping for a flimsy cane at Walmart.
On the ZBS, I never said you need a mobile QB for the running game to work. Pay attention. When you look at both of my posts, I've said that there is a problem when the QB is not mobile and he's limited in his ability to process things quickly and accurately and thereby perform well under pressure. Every example you've brought up so far had either a mobile QB or a very elite QB like Brees or Manning who both were very adept at performing under pressure. My point wasn't about the running game working. It was about the QB working when the OL is overwhelmed by physical fronts.
